Don't want to complain about my raise but the partner must think I'm a moron if I'm going to fall for the "look at all these other benefits we offer" speech 😂😂

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Then take another job offer. You are have a lot of "ifs" in your statement. If my grandma had a dick she'd be my grandpa. Stop talking "ifs". You think that your raise is too small? Negotiate a larger one. You think an outside opportunity will be more beneficial for your career? Go take that other job. Stop bitching and staying at the job you bitch about. There's a reason you stay and you haven't jumped ship. Just think about that.

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@AA1 you're just naive. The point of my post is that these "expectations" you have are unrealistic. The wage system in B4 is not broken, it's actually quite good. You get amazing experience and make more than he average American family as a first year! You hear this a lot from new hires and I've got no idea where you all are getting such unrealistic expectations from. It's like you all think you'll make $80K directly out of college and get 10%+ raises every year. That's just not reality. You often hear talks of "well I can get X if I left" and the obvious question is "why don't you leave then?"

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I'd fake my dogs death if the payout was right

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Didn't say I was pissed-- I was pointing out that the partners "other types of compensation" speech was a joke. Also, only dbags use the word asinine.

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Pet insurance, worth at least 2 percentage points. 😉

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still, 10% for a promotion.... thought PA/B4 is supposed to be good money? anything under 10k for a promotion is shitty by me. the salary band thing is bs to me too, if I take a job offer that's 10k higher than other jobs I would not assume that that therefore means my future raises will be lower. And people wonder why the younger generation job hop...

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Lol I had one if/then statement. I think my points are both pretty valid, although maybe they point to my own naivety. If I were OP, I would be disappointed in a 10% promo raise and I would also be pissed that they enticed me into a higher salary only to withhold future raises to even things out. You are clearly OK with the system as is, good for you. But I have every right to express my opinion and point to things I don't believe are right. And as I stated, such practices contribute to why people job hop, implying I would not have a problem job hopping in that scenario. So I don't understand where your heated/vulgar response is coming from.

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Promotions don't come after 1 year. At a minimum promotion to senior is at least 2 years in. That means that you've had one promotion previously. If you started at $50K and got a good raise your first year, that 10% raise your promotion year puts you around $63K. In a low COL area that's not bad. Just how much do you think people with 2 years experience get paid?

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Not trying to be mean, just trying to help you re-frame your expectations. They're just not in-line with the market or what actually occurs in the work force. Those types of big pay raises come at more experienced levels.

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All depends what you want from life. The busy years early on set you up for great exit ops down the line. If you leave after 2 years for a true 9-5 your career advancement and career earnings will be significantly lower than someone who sticks it out 5 years. It all just depends what you want. I chose to put in the work early on in my career. When I exited I found a great job laying 6 figures with 30% bonus and amazing flexibility.

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Those other perks do cost something; funny thing is when we didn't have them people whined about not having them. We have them and people act like they don't take advantage of them. Go to a no frills firm with slightly higher pay and you'll quickly realize that you're paying more out of pocket for less "stuff."

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The script we get from leadership stresses that we should mention the other types of non-salary comp. Fail to appreciate it, and they'll yank it. Look at what happened to the pension program. If it's not worth anything to you, feel free to message that. Helps leadership figure out where to cut costs.

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what was your raise

10%

What level are you? Was this a promotion year?

Senior, yes a promotion year

10% isn't horrible for a promo year. What is your new salary? It's possible you were already quite high in the salary bands at your staff level so the 10% gets you in line with new seniors. If you're high in the staff salary bands they can't give you a huge raise because that would put you on par in total salary with experienced seniors and obviously as a new senior your pay should be less than that of experienced seniors.

Yeah I agree, I don't think it was horrible- especially for a year like this. I started off as a staff 2 cause of my law degree so I think I was 10k higher than the staff 1's and about 5k higher than other staff 2's.

Pissed about getting 10% raise?!? That is asinine to me.

10% for a promotion. That's 5k for a 50k salary ... I only speak for myself, but I would not be satisfied with that.

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