During busy season, when everybody is super busy and you are a bit less swamped (10 11 hours ish per day), would you volunteer to take on some more work? Initially I was willing to do that but it’s gotten to a point where I just quietly crank out my work and log off. On one hand, I don’t think I should take on more work just because I’m a bit faster and managers are bad at planning resources. On the other, I feel selfish. What would you do?

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10-11 is definitely enough. In fact if I have 8 billable a day I won't ask for more work. there are always ad hoc or admin coming up which will easily kick to 10. cushion makes the work sustainable. They should hire more full time people or maybe interns to help, instead of burning out everyone in the team.

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Please no more interns!!!!

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The problem with PA is there is always more work to do and you will be rewarded with even more work for being efficient or finishing yours early

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Yep same, when they know you’re a good and reliable worker they will pile on the work any chance they get. Just because I’m efficient doesn’t mean I need to pick up the work of everyone else!

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I stay online and move my mouse lol

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Just go to the Calendar in Teams and press Meet Now to start a call with just yourself. You'll show as "In a call" and your screen won't shut off, even after hours of inactivity. If you'd rather show as "Available", you can override that and it will stay for the duration of the call.

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10/11 is a lot of work in a day, you don’t want to stretch yourself too thin and burnout because you’re efficient and get more work piled on you. Speaking from experience, I’d just do your work and log off.

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It sounds like you and I did something very similar lol. What happens is you feel like you want to help out and pick up more work, but then you will get taken advantage of. I don't know how else to put it. This is coming from someone who put in significantly more hours than others at his level, and then learned (at performance review time) that we all got almost EXACTLY the same raise.

One of the best points I've seen about this topic is the following: If you are a superstar, you are going to be overutilized in public accounting. This will likely result in burnout or moving on to better opportunities (associate to senior level). The people that are not superstars and are below average, are going to get pushed out by the firm. You then have the average folks, who will climb the ladder in public accounting. It might surprise you, but it shouldn't. These folks are going to not get overworked in public accounting and they won't be doing a bad enough job to get let go.

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FACT. Turns out many of the partners are just slightly above average performers. Cause the way above avg people left already!

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I always reach out to my team to see who needs help. I made a pledge I will never let my juniors late all alone. I would rather everyone get finished together than have one or two people stay extra late.

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My biggest issue with this is if I get in an hour or two before someone that will need to stay later. Then I don’t think I should stay til they leave.

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Hell no my g

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No. Screw that, they work us to death already.

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I would just hit the 55 billable hours required to not get flagged for additional work.

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Probably just within my team but I won’t offer help more than that

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No. Once you step in to “help” you’re stuck on that engagement. Forever. And what started as you trying to “help” turns into chronic over utilization, often times on awful engagements that are mismanaged.

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A bit less swamped =10-11 hours? Then what is your definition of swamped? 16 hours?

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I don’t think it’s unreasonable to not volunteer to take on more work but I would make sure your utilization and total hours are comparable to your peers. It never looks great for you if you are working 50 hrs and everyone else is working 80 hrs. That’s another issue which could be a whole other topic but just make sure you keep up optics because I promise leadership is monitoring closely.

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Little saddening everyone is saying no. I think it depends on your level and how you feel about your team. As a senior, you shouldn’t watch your associates drown, that’s messed up. If it’s same level as you, then it’s more ok. Also, if you are legit friends with the people on your team, idk how in good conscience you don’t help. Don’t ask your senior or manage, just under the table help the other people out a little here and there; if you are actually friendly, they won’t take advantage of you. But, to agree with others, if not friendly and you are staff, it’s simply not worth helping out

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Lol, your busy is 10 or 11? My normal es 12ish, I'm from FIS.

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They said they were less busy at 10-11 hours

Once I cross the 10 hour threshold I make sure to cross my t's, dot my i's, and get ready sign out for the day. I'm an early riser so by 5 or 6 I usually hit that amount. When I was at the office it was easier, everyone saw me there when they arrived so if I bounced first nobody said anything. But WFH, man, you gotta get creative. That email you wanted to send out at the end of the day? Draft it and fire it off when you wake up at 6am. Stuff like that. It's not really gaming the system, you just have to make sure people know you're giving it a full day so that when you sign off you're doing so because you've been working a lot longer than they have.

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I would check with your current manager and see if there is anything else you need to get done for the clients you are on. If not, log off. If you are working 10/11 a day, and volunteer yourself on other clients, you might be given too much.

The problem with this is that the manager you ask will recognize you did all you can do for the client you are assigned and will give you extra work for a different client and expect it to be done.

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No.

Be selfish. There’s always more work tomorrow. Do it tomorrow

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