Facebook has followed Google in making vaccination mandatory to work in person at the office. More companies will likely follow suit.

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This is a hilarious thread. Allow me to add to it. And no, I’m not a boomer, bwahahahaha

The most controversial topic of all time. I did copy and paste this, but I don’t think there’s any other way to put any of this. I respect your decision to take a vaccine, and you need to respect mine to not 😉. It’s a big pharma monopoly (scandal) at the end of the day 🤷🏼‍♀️ and can agree to disagree on this subject.
Lots of questions but no decent answers.

ME: CDC, should I get poke if I already had Covid?
CDC: “Yes, you should be poked regardless of whether you already had COVID-19. That’s because experts do not yet know how long you are protected from getting sick again after recovering from COVID-19.”
ME: Oh, okay, we don’t know how long natural immunity lasts. Got it. So, how long does poke-induced immunity last?
CDC: “There is still a lot we are learning about COVID-19 pokes and CDC is constantly reviewing evidence and updating guidance. We don’t know how long protection lasts for those who are poked.”
ME: Okay … but wait a second. I thought you said the reason I need the poke was because we don’t know how long my natural immunity lasts, but it seems like you’re saying we ALSO don’t know how long poke immunity lasts either. So, how exactly is the poke immunity better than my natural immunity?
CDC: …
ME: Uh … alright. But, haven’t there been a bunch of studies suggesting that natural immunity could last for years or decades?
CDC: Yes.
NEWYORKTIMES: “Years, maybe even decades, according to a new study.”
ME: Ah. So natural immunity might last longer than poke immunity?
CDC: Possibly. You never know.
ME: Okay. If I get the poke, does that mean I won’t get sick?
BRITAIN: Nope. We are just now entering a seasonal spike and about half of our infections and hospital admissions are poked people.
ME: CDC, is this true? Are there a lot of people in the U.S. catching Covid after getting the poke?
CDC: We stopped tracking breakthrough cases. We accept voluntary reports of breakthroughs but aren’t out there looking for them.
ME: Does that mean that if someone comes in the hospital with Covid, you don’t track them because they’ve been poked? You only track the UN-poked Covid cases?
CDC: That’s right.
ME: Oh, okay. Hmm. Well, if I can still get sick after I get the poke, how is it helping me?
CDC: We never said you wouldn’t get sick. We said it would reduce your chances of serious illness or death.
ME: Oh, sorry. Alright, exactly how much does it reduce my chance of serious illness or death.
CDC: We don’t know “exactly.”
ME: Oh. Then what’s your best estimate for how much risk reduction there is?
CDC: We don’t know, okay? Next question.
ME: Um, if I’m healthy and don’t want the poke, is there any reason I should get it?
CDC: Yes, for the collective.
ME: How does the collective benefit from me getting poked?
CDC: Because you could spread the virus to someone else who might get sick and die.
ME: Can a poked person spread the virus to someone else?
CDC: Yes.
ME: So if I get poked, I could still spread the virus to someone else?
CDC: Yes.
ME: But I thought you just said, the REASON I should get poked was to prevent me spreading the virus? How does that make sense if I can still catch Covid and spread it after getting the poke?
CDC: Never mind that. The other thing is, if you stay unpoked, there’s a chance the virus could possibly mutate into a strain that escapes the pokes protection, putting all poked people at risk.
ME: So the poke stops the virus from mutating?
CDC: No.
ME: So it can still mutate in poked people?
CDC: Yes.
ME: This seems confusing. If the poke doesn’t stop mutations, and it doesn’t stop infections, then how does me getting poked help prevent a more deadly strain from evolving to escape the poke?
CDC: You aren’t listening, okay? The bottom line is: as long as you are unpoked, you pose a threat to poked people.
ME: But what KIND of threat??
CDC: The threat that they could get a serious case of Covid and possibly die.
ME: My brain hurts. Didn’t you JUST say that the poke doesn’t keep people from catching Covid, but prevents a serious case or dying? Now it seems like you’re saying poked people can still easily die from Covid even after they got the poke just by running into an unpoked person! Which is it??
CDC: That’s it, we’re hanging up now.
ME: Wait! I just want to make sure I understand all this. So, even if I ALREADY had Covid, I should STILL get poked, because we don’t know how long natural immunity lasts, and we also don’t know how long poke immunity lasts. And I should get the poke to keep a poked person from catching Covid from me, but even if I get the poke, I can give it to the poked person anyways. And, the other poked person can still easily catch a serious case of Covid from me and die. Do I have all that right?

ME: Um, hello? Is anyone there?

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It’s hilarious people think everyone who doesn’t want the vaccine is an idiot. There are plenty of people on this thread working jobs that clearly require analytical skills. To think these people just don’t want the vaccine because they are “uneducated morons” holds no weight. I would argue they have put more thought into it and are showing more intelligence than blinding believing what TV says to do.

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And new flash - almost all the mask data for COVID is observational…

It’s no ones “right” to be a spreader of disease because they don’t trust science. This is the equivalent of people claiming “religious exemption” in our public schools because they believe Jenny McCarthy when she says the measles vaccine gives kids autism.

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Love to see it. Keep pushing the idiots to the corners

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Pretty scary to see how many people in the big 4 don't understand basic science. 99% of the people in the hospital for COVID right now aren't vaccinated. How can people be so dumb?

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Sfdc1 unclear if Americans are just dumb or don't care about others or both.

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Sorry, but until Biden and his buddies stop importing C19-infected illegal aliens and airlifting them all over the country in the dead of night, on our dime, you can take your “GET VAXXXED” hysteria and stick it.
Love,
The rest of us

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A1 - according to the article you posted, they’re being transported, consistent with Federal law, within TEXAS. And there’s no data in your article to indicate that they’re all infected with COVID. Besides, unvaccinated American citizens are spreading COVID across the country just fine, without any help whatsoever from immigrants. If you’re trying to blame the surge of infections in Texas on immigrants, you need to look at the policies of Governor Abbott instead. He and his buddy DeSantis seem totally ok with killing off citizens as well as non-citizens.

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Great way to discourage in-office work 👍🏼

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It's confirmed anyone can apply to be remote. 😉

Yes, please!!!

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It’s shameful how many responsibilities (like compelling vaccination) our government has abdicated that we now turn to corporations for leadership.

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Hold government at arm’s length, but at least it is nominally charged with serving all of its people. Corporations are only beholden to their shareholders and increasing profits — something one should trust even less.

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Real question - we know that getting the vaccine makes it entirely less likely you will get a serious case of covid. Even if you feel you have a 0% risk of dying of covid, why wouldn’t you want a vaccine that could cut your down time in half? I would guess this is most of the motivation behind companies requiring the vaccine - not having a vaccinated workforce is a risk to productivity.

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Because some people may have already have gotten COVID and built strong, natural immunity to it… and the antibodies are proven to be long-term and maintain strong immune memory.

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Just Remember that Power is never taken. It's given up by the weak.

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Gym bro really nailed it. (This is SATTIRE but also turning out to be somewhat true)

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If the vaccine is so good and all of us are so confident in its efficacy and safety, why is it still under emergency use authorization?

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What’s the difference between full approval and an EUA?
It’s one of scale. FDA will review much more data, covering a longer period of time, before granting full approval. “It’s not a huge difference, but it is a real difference,” Goodman says. The agency will analyze additional clinical trial data and consider real-world data on effectiveness and safety. It will inspect manufacturing facilities and make sure quality control is very strict. “It’s an exhaustive review,” Goodman says.

FDA is already familiar with much of the data, however, for instance on the very rare side effects caused by the J&J and Pfizer vaccines that didn’t show up in clinical trials.

When might the vaccines be approved?
On 16 July, FDA accepted Pfizer’s application “under priority review”—meaning it will move faster than during standard reviews, which typically take at least 10 months; the agency now has until January 2022 to review the materials. That seems like a long time, but last week an FDA official told CNN that the decision is likely to come within 2 months. “The review … has been ongoing, is among the highest priorities of the agency, and the agency intends to complete the review far in advance of the [January] Date,” an FDA press officer confirmed to Science in a statement.

FDA has not formally accepted Moderna’s application, possibly because the company has not yet submitted all the required materials.

Change my mind.

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Big Tech is basically The Plastics of Mean Girls. They move as a squad. Not surprised.

Good move, totally satisfied.

Ok, but how are we going to PROVE they are vaccinated? Right now they can just CLAIM they’re vaccinated and the cards are very easy to spoof.

lol Salesforce1 thinks they are the smartest person in the world. You speak in definitive statements with such a superiority complex. Maybe that’s now who you are but that’s how you are coming off

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