Fact check: 180k salary, non tech PMO role, 8 YOE. Am I severely under paid?

funnylikehelpful
Posting as :
works at
You are currently posting as works at
Highlighted IconHIGHLIGHTED

Selling and making sure the team delivers. That’s really what a partner does. When you start that journey it can look like PM work, but is much more.

OP, if it’s just status checks and decks, overpaid. If you’re doing that and managing client expectations, identifying areas you can deepen your relationship and executing on it. 180 sounds reasonable.

likehelpful

The sense I get from the posts here is product managers think they are above project managers - one manages product details and the others the team that delivers that product. Why the snobbery?

likefunny

Some people derive their sense of self worth from examining their lives and relationships and are intentional about spending their time doing something they love.

Some people have no idea why they are miserable so they frantically scroll through comments on Fishbowl to find out what companies are "the best", what roles are "the best", and to fish for approval from others for how much money they make bc they have no internal understanding of what their own success looks like. Then, they tell people who aren't doing the same things as them that those people aren't successful bc it makes them feel better about their choices.

If you like what you do or have different interests than other people, that's great! If you don't actually know what you want to do, maybe take some time to think about that carefully instead of criticizing how other people choose to move forward in their careers.

likesmart
Recent IconRecent

If you're in a PMO role, more likely severely overpaid

likefunnyupliftingsmarthelpful

SM1 is a savage but he ain't wrong

like

You're 30 and get paid $180,000.00 to do project management?? I think you're doing fine...

likefunny

You are overpaid for PMO work for that money.

like

Indeed

@OP you’re overpaid LOL. ESPECIALLY if you’re a non-tech PMO. Stay where you are until you can work out how to take off the golden handcuffs 🤣

like

Y’all are really annoying with thinking PMO is collecting status.

likefunnysmart

I’ve worked with good PMs and bad PMs. The bulk of their role is to collect and report on status, manage risks and issues, and manage staffing and financials.

The good ones can do that stuff mostly independently, either because they know the project work decently well or because they make an effort to learn. The bad ones ask for the same status repeatedly and set up meetings that are basically only so they can be caught up - basically they just create more work for the team.

Unfortunately there’s way more bad PMs than good and people build their impression of the role off of their experiences.

like

The fact that you had to add “severely” in front of under paid tells me you are incredibly out of touch with reality.

likefunny

More like overpaid for PMO work lol count your blessings imo

like

Wow so many haters on this post. OP, it depends. I do PMO for M&A transactions (we call it SMO or IMO depending on the situation) and make about $300k as a Manager.

like

^was meant to be an actual question and not a roast, btw

likesmartfunny

In summary - majority thinks your overpaid, while there are a few niche comparative sets where you’d be underpaid if you narrowly compared to that group only.

like

Nope. I'm at 135k with 9 YOE

like

He works for BAH. So no. I left BAH making $130 with 14yrs with most of it as a program manager and was leading a 60 person team for two years of my time there.
And no one is going to pay you more then you make now. Especially at a manger level. Be happy with what you got.

like

Yes. Business roles in tech get you 140-170k TC with 3-4 YOE.

like

Yes.

Yeah - overpaid for sure.

likesmart

You are probably stealing from 2 other people who are severely underpaid! Enjoy while it lasts!

like

Yea sorry - overpaid.

like

I can only hope to one day make what you do now. I make $72k with 5 YOE, excluding 10 years military. Thought I'd provide a different perspective.

like

Yea, you need to jump firms. new hires get paid more than that

like

Underpaid. Is that total TC? interviewed for many roles where compensation base was 185k to 200k plus RSUS plus bonus. You can easily up that to 300k TC

likefunny

It's not even slightly underpaid. That is a very solid base salary.

like

Lol

likefunny

@OP - you asked for a “fact check”. Take a look at all the responses to your post. You’re overpaid. Just thank your lucky stars and don’t leave.

like

Related Posts

Hello Fishes,

Can anyone refer me in Capgemini ? I'm a Business Analyst having 6 YOE in Client Interfacing, Stakeholder management, Requirement Gathering/Analysis, Collaborates with Product Owners and Scrum Team, Documents requirements in the form of User Stories. Agile, Scrum, JIRA, UAT.
Domain - Life Insurance

Thanks in advance!

like

What type of exit opportunities are there for those in sales ops/strategy/revops in big tech? Any thoughts?

like

How much will be in-hand salary for the salary structure below?.

Thanks in Advance

Post Photo
like

Security BU Hiring in LTI !!

**Immediate to 30 days joiners will be preferred**
Interested plz DM with job codes

Post Photo
like

Hi All! Need some advice re: paid search.
I have a client whose scope is mainly around content creation and advertising on social. However, they recently asked that I include paid search in my scope. Where do I start!? I have zero experience with this.

like

Hi, all. I'm looking to exit from consulting. I have a masters in public health and 3 yoe in pharma industry ( open to Healthcare roles as well). I am truly open to any role that could leverage my experience, my only ask is that it gives me WLB (no evenings and no weekend work). I would appreciate any leads or referrals if you know of any roles at your org that may be a fit. Thank you

like

How is working for HCL singapore for a renowned bank ?
Salary wise i believe okay decent type , don't think it's best

But otherwise , working wise is it good for learning and working on latest tech . Is it hectic due to strict deadlines. I am not sure howz the culture at Singapore

like

For home owners, how much was your place and how much were you earning at the time?

Apparently the rule of thumb is to buy a house that’s within three times your gross salary 🥲 Want know what’s the norm in Canada with our crazy housing prices.

like

Hello Fishes ,
I am working as an APM-II and have total product management experience of 4 years.
I have recently started looking for a PM role in other organisations.
If any product fellow have PM opening in their organisation, please help me out.

like

Just got a vp offer at a 2-3B fund. What is typical carry for a position like this? They offered mid 300s cash comp, have premium carry terms.

like

Hey Fishes,
Do any of you know what's the expected salary for Senior Game Designer Salary in India?

like
like

How is the status of the job market currently? I heard from colleagues looking for a new job say it’s terrible out there. While news articles say there are still a lot of places hiring.

like

Options for exit opportunities in project/program mgmt? I have 6 years in gov/public sector consulting, and 1 year in private consulting for a mid-size firm. Just not sure where to go from here.

like

Live in SF but client is in Miami. Looking to take week off in spring to go somewhere in Caribbean/Latin America. More into hiking/exploring/landscape rather than beach/resorts. Any recommendations?

like

Help! Just met with the client manager telling me that I am an underperformer while I've had a non stop busy season since March as an A1, went on to say that this week will be to review if I am kept on the client.
Am I on the verge of being fired?
I'm thinking of quitting.

like

Hi, I’m currently applying for Clinical Scientist positions in Pharma and would like to get a better sense of reasonable salary expectations. I have PhD + almost 2 years of academic postdoc experience in clinical trials. Thanks!

like

Hi guys, I am looking for a referral at Wells Fargo , I have a JOB ID with me. Please help? Thanks in advance!

Do recruiters/hiring managers look at reels/portfolios first or resumes?

like

Chicago area EA Fishes! I am backfilling my current role at Paradigm Healthcare. It is an EA role, with some HR responsibilities and a path to Chief of Staff.

DM me if interested in specifics.

like

More Posts

Hi Friends,
Just wondering in the Netherlands how is LoonZorg for expat insurance? The deal seems too good to be true as the premiums are a fair bit lower compared to other providers.

Thanks!

like

I have offer from HCL Hyderabad. Should I join?

like

I know it’s been asked previously, but worth posting again: what’s your take on doing work (in-house) for free as part of an interview process? I’m being asked to do so by a start up and feeling iffy

Any Oracle cloud Inventory expert here?

How can we get cost for a particular transaction easily, without going to cost accounting distribution, is there any way to get it in review completed transaction, or any OTBI that we can create

like

My doctor is starting me off on 3 vials of menopur , along with other meds. Is this excessive? I have a good amh/fsh and I’ve done cycles before with just two vials of menopur

like

Will CPA exam get easier after 2024? Can any insider reveal to me what it will look like?

like

I'm in the process of starting my own marketing firm but can't come up with a good name. Any ideas?

like

My career goal is to not design or resize banner ads. Learned the hard way from this latest gig.

like

Twas the night before school starts and this Praying Massive came to bless me and all of my classives.

Post Photo
like

Can any recommend a good ghostwriter for an article regarding issues in law faced by women and people of color?

like

Please suggest some good platform to learn react.
I am doing online course but not getting anything.
Better if there is some tutor who take online sessions.

like

Can we do freelancing which will not create a conflict with our work? Like selling paintings which we do on weekends?

Do you feel like there's enough Black infrastructure/ownership at a high level when it comes to finance? If you don't think there is, what can be done to change that?

like

Is it possible for God to reveal who we’re going to end up with? I feel very strongly that God is pointing me towards this man (who is only an acquaint at this point), but I don’t want to mistake my feelings for Gods voice.

like

One of my patients has been making suggestive comments ever since I started seeing him. He makes me incredibly uncomfortable and even after trying to work with him, he’s still giving me the ick. It’s disgusting and I can only imagine what he’s like outside of this hospital.

like

How much are you making with 4-5 years accounting experience?

like

Are PM positions in consumer goods as prestigious/sought after as in tech?

like

Does anyone get depressed/extremely unmotivated when you are facing a difficult or complicated task?

like

Anyone here from OYO , what kind of questions they ask for sde 3?

like

Is it just me or is anyone else getting a lot more traction for nontech roles that have an analytics component than actual DS roles?

I am interviewing with bizops and data analytics consultant jobs (they want technical people) yet I am barely receiving any traction for pure data science positions. Can't tell if its because I labelled myself as an analytics consultant.

Also, i do not have a masters

likehelpful

Additional Posts in Compensation

What is the average salary for senior consultants in PI finance (non MBA) in a Tier 1 city?

like

McKinsey & Company Bain & Company Is MBB going to raise comp in the UK too? Just signed the offer recently McKinsey & Company Bain & Company Boston Consulting Group

likefunny

My stock pickings in robinhood have turned me 16% profit since last fall. I keep hearing about how hard it is to beat the market. Am I a genius or....

likefunny

Guys, any idea how much should I expect from John Deere for Grade 9 job with 16+ YOE ?

like

What is meant by “stock bonus” and “profit sharing” in Glassdoor? These don’t sound like the annual performance bonus we get, but many report receiving it.

like

Newish to consulting - is there a master list of city tiers? Or do people just kinda know and pass the knowledge on?

like

Does Accenture or KPMG pay better at the Manager level?

like