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Fact check: 180k salary, non tech PMO role, 8 YOE. Am I severely under paid?

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Selling and making sure the team delivers. That’s really what a partner does. When you start that journey it can look like PM work, but is much more. OP, if it’s just status checks and decks, overpaid. If you’re doing that and managing client expectations, identifying areas you can deepen your relationship and executing on it. 180 sounds reasonable.

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The sense I get from the posts here is product managers think they are above project managers - one manages product details and the others the team that delivers that product. Why the snobbery?

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Some people derive their sense of self worth from examining their lives and relationships and are intentional about spending their time doing something they love. Some people have no idea why they are miserable so they frantically scroll through comments on Fishbowl to find out what companies are "the best", what roles are "the best", and to fish for approval from others for how much money they make bc they have no internal understanding of what their own success looks like. Then, they tell people who aren't doing the same things as them that those people aren't successful bc it makes them feel better about their choices. If you like what you do or have different interests than other people, that's great! If you don't actually know what you want to do, maybe take some time to think about that carefully instead of criticizing how other people choose to move forward in their careers.

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If you're in a PMO role, more likely severely overpaid

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SM1 is a savage but he ain't wrong

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You're 30 and get paid $180,000.00 to do project management?? I think you're doing fine...

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You are overpaid for PMO work for that money.

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@OP you’re overpaid LOL. ESPECIALLY if you’re a non-tech PMO. Stay where you are until you can work out how to take off the golden handcuffs 🤣

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Y’all are really annoying with thinking PMO is collecting status.

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I’ve worked with good PMs and bad PMs. The bulk of their role is to collect and report on status, manage risks and issues, and manage staffing and financials. The good ones can do that stuff mostly independently, either because they know the project work decently well or because they make an effort to learn. The bad ones ask for the same status repeatedly and set up meetings that are basically only so they can be caught up - basically they just create more work for the team. Unfortunately there’s way more bad PMs than good and people build their impression of the role off of their experiences.

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The fact that you had to add “severely” in front of under paid tells me you are incredibly out of touch with reality.

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More like overpaid for PMO work lol count your blessings imo

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Wow so many haters on this post. OP, it depends. I do PMO for M&A transactions (we call it SMO or IMO depending on the situation) and make about $300k as a Manager.

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^was meant to be an actual question and not a roast, btw

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In summary - majority thinks your overpaid, while there are a few niche comparative sets where you’d be underpaid if you narrowly compared to that group only.

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Nope. I'm at 135k with 9 YOE

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He works for BAH. So no. I left BAH making $130 with 14yrs with most of it as a program manager and was leading a 60 person team for two years of my time there. And no one is going to pay you more then you make now. Especially at a manger level. Be happy with what you got.

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Yes. Business roles in tech get you 140-170k TC with 3-4 YOE.

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Yes.

Yeah - overpaid for sure.

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You are probably stealing from 2 other people who are severely underpaid! Enjoy while it lasts!

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Yea sorry - overpaid.

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I can only hope to one day make what you do now. I make $72k with 5 YOE, excluding 10 years military. Thought I'd provide a different perspective.

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Yea, you need to jump firms. new hires get paid more than that

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Underpaid. Is that total TC? interviewed for many roles where compensation base was 185k to 200k plus RSUS plus bonus. You can easily up that to 300k TC

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It's not even slightly underpaid. That is a very solid base salary.

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Lol

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@OP - you asked for a “fact check”. Take a look at all the responses to your post. You’re overpaid. Just thank your lucky stars and don’t leave.

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