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Just passed the phone interview for a non-tech Program Manager role at Amazon. Up for the loop next week and I need help! Any tips? Also, this is for an L5 role and i think they may be low-balling me. This will be an onsite role and it would take me an hour to get to the office everyday. Also, I live in Southern Cali so gas prices are gonna kill me.
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Everyone is different mate, someone might take 2-3 interviews to get a grip on something and some of them can take a while, because every interview is different my friend. You cant think that what was asked to you in one same questions would be asked in the other. Might be same questions are only asked but they are asked in different manner or in depth.
Every Interview is also different why? because Every Interviewer has different perceptions of whaat he looks in a candidate, for some if. you answer a bit its fine, for some if you go in depth that's good, for some they just want one word answer, for some they want to go deep inn your fundamentals, some asks tricky questions, some asks to code based on scenarios and so on so forth. Cant even express all in one post.
Never think negative about yourself mate, I have seen folks who have cracked a single interview' after like 125 companies, just keep hustling, keep patience your time will surely come.
Rejection are really good mate they tell you what you lack and helps to prepare the lacking parts better.
In day-to-day work we dont really have time to go through whats the concept and dont have time to go indepth in it.
Some tips I would suggest for interviews:
1. Note down each and every question that you faced for an interview.
2. Mark the ones that you are not confident at answering.
3. Prepare the ones you face difficulty in.
4. Watch youtube/blogs on the topics to go indepth.
5. In interview if you dont know a answer just say Im not recalling the concept currently.
6.In interview, its not required to answer everything, but rather whatever you answer it should be crisp and clear to the interviewer that's more important.
Very thoughtful Xuing Xang. Professional world need more people like you.
The problem is not with you. Its rather the problem with Industry in India. They want so much knowledge that they are never going to be used. Most employers like excellence but they overlook a very basic fact - the language you are hiring for, the business model you are hiring for is going to be obsolete in next 2-3 years. Just because someone graduated from IIT or NIT expecting everyone around them need to have same skills is total bullshit. Its these interviewers that often don't understand that what you may want is not what your company needs!!! I've worked in India and out of India as well. I cracked 5 international offers and to be honest none of those companies asked me what I did 10 years ago. Instead they chose to ask will you be comfortable working on xyz. Even at current org in Germany we don't reject candidates if they use google because employers and tech lead here understand the very basic thing that - no one is going to use DFS/BFS in their day to day life. Those problems are already solved. Instead they look for if person is going to be okay in a chaos and handle the current system to be able to resolve the tickets. After all if someone knows all those data structures and exceptional at programming language why would they work with you? Won't they be interested in booting up their own startup?
I think the greed of Indian market is root cause for the situation that many talented people don't get offers. It doesn't matter if one knows DS if you are going to ask them to write rest/graphql services which are hardly going to be used by 10k people / sec. And even after successful selection, one will be put on projects with long hours. Isn't that punishment for being intelligent? Being intelligent and smart means getting work done fast with unconventional ways where the corporate market in India is not ready for unconventional thinking. So my friend its not you, its the company. If they are letting go of someone who has good experience then they don't know the industry truly. They are still following their management books which aren't up to mark with what industry is expecting in next 10 years. Having so much hiring options has spoiled the greed inside many IT companies in India who just hire talent for sake of having them like a tropy in collection and sitting on some shelf somewhere rather than hiring what they need to get business grow faster.
Very well said ..and Exactly...
Hey Buddy
I'm going through same phase as you. Failed around 10 interviews 4 years back , lost confidence and went back to bad job where people were good but I didn't get good experience. I am a programmer from BITS and I did jobs of filling excel sheets and rebooting servers.
Still doing same now and I resigned out of panic of going back to office.
My family still supports and trusts me that I'll do something. I'm spending way too hours learning technology to crack interviews.
I know things and have built as side hobby, but not at work. Failed 5-6 interviews so far as I get confused due to lack of experience.
Have 1 month of notice period remaining. I hope I'll crack good interview in this time. I so wanna work in cutting edge technologies and not be old self who loathed not doing programming job and couldn't switch as current job didn't give me needed experience. It was a cycle.
Keep hopes! Work hard learning toughest things which you fail to answer in interviews. Some day both of us will crack and make fortune! 🔥
Wow, u just said my current situation exactly.
Hey I think you need to stop a little bit,Retrospect and then proceed.Your 25 interviews are not a failure rather your very much prepared from when you started.Success is just around the corner for you😊
Buddy from every failure you learn something. Note down questions in the sheet and prepare for the interview. All the best
Remember one thing "Tere se hoga, Tere se he hoga wo tu hai jisse hoga". Believe in your self checkout this video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5zdmA7HSoE
The reason why I love this platform is because ppl are here to encourage/motivate you and most of us have been thru this phase, so embrace it and improvise, One good interview and ull be a different man, all u need is that boost of confidence.
Really your family values you on the basis of your professional success? I am sorry to say this is not healthy. Your family should be supporting you now. Fear of failure causes failure and your family is creating this fear and pressure.
He is thinking this on his own. No family ever does that bro… be enthusiastic, and discuss this with your family. That way you will find the you’ve them at ur back always and trust me that feeling will boost your confidence to the peak. 🙏
1. Don't tell any family members that you are appearing in interviews. It creates pressure on you which can be detrimental. At least don't encourage them asking about interviews, just tell them yes it's going on and at the same time you are doing the job and studying.
Tell them it's office meetings instead of interviews. I did same
I failed for 1.5 years while interviewing with different companies. Lost count of the actual number of interviews I failed😅.
Never doubted myself, never told anyone.
My story is very similar to yours. I am a good performer, received many accolades from Project and Company but was unable to clear interviews.
Then suddenly I received 2 offers in 2 weeks.
7 offers in a month. Spoilt for choice then.
Try to look up the questions that you were asked during the interview. Create a copy and keep noting the questions and answers as you keep giving interviews.
All of a sudden, one day it will start to click.
You will receive a great offer. I know it, I can sense it. You just have to keep at it.
Chief
Thanks a lot mate 🙏🏻
Yes I am also keeping notes of all the questions being asked in all the interviews and preparing the answers which I am unable to respond. Hoping for the sun to rise sometime🤞🏻
I failed for about 30 interviews before getting 3 offers back to back with about min 125% hike to 170% hike. It's not about how well you are prepared but how well you can perform. Just keep swimming it would be easier to push through when you leave the fear of failure behind.
Chief
Congrats on your offer.
And thanks for your motivating words
Same thing happened with me last year. Gave multiple interviews but wasn't able to clear them. Finally i am able to clr few interviews and got the offer letter. Keep trying.
Try to remember the questions you were not able to answer properly during interview and google them for answers later on. Repeat this till you are able to crack the interviews. This worked for me.
Chief
Thanks friend.
Yes I am doing the same repeatedly now.
Will keep on trying
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First Thing don't inform Anyone that you're appearing for interviews.. Once you do that. You will be confident and won't demotivated If you don't get. Because no one is going to ask now..and secondly some better opportunity might be waiting for you.. 25 interviews didn't go for a waste. You got enough experience and now you have clear idea of how to perform. So just apply and perform well. You can tell to family later as surprise..
Chief
Thanks for your suggestion friend.
But my friends stay with me only, and with WFH going on, they knows what is going on in my life.
They are really supporting me though
Bro, even Virat Kohli is out of form every now and then, does that mean he is a bad player? No right. Everybody knows he is a class player.
So just have trust and follow the process.
Chief
Thanks for your motivating words mate
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I failed for 3 years before my first switch. Failures don't have to be about not succeeding but rather about taking them as a challenge and learn from each failure. I was able to get 100 % and then 200 % hike. All I request is for you to introspect where things went wrong and then do the best you can to improve.
Diamonds are always formed under high pressure. Good luck and godspeed
Chief
Thanks a lot for your motivating words mate.
Yes, I will keep on introspecting myself regularly🙏🏻
Hey it's totally fine. Just keep studying and give. I have been rejected 20 times in a row.
Don't lose hope man. You will do great trust me just have patience and keep on studying and applying.
:) You just need one success. My man just focus and give 🤗🤗
Chief
Thanks a lot friend for your motivating words 🙏🏻
Your family won't devalue just because you failed in interview. Do not measure the love of your family for you with interview performances.
Keep on trying and you'll surely get your desired opportunity.
Chief
Thanks a lot friend...
I just hope, I don't let down my family
Interviews aren't super scientific either. It is not just your ability/caliber but also the biases, blind spots and moods of the interviewer(s) as well as a hundred things going on inside the company that decide whether you get an offer or not. That said, I do understand that it can be difficult if despite so much effort from your side nothing seems to be working. If possible, try to analyse the interview with a friend (after giving yourself enough time to get over the disappointment ie). Also, go into an interview expecting nothing. Very Zen, I know :) But it helps with managing stress.
Chief
Started following this process only, going ahead without any baggage... Thanks a lot for your words 🙏🏻
Don't worry it's a phase last year I had the same thing where I was also failing interviews one by one. But what I did is I stopped giving interviews and try to research more on the topics i failed, even took certifications to get more knowledge and then appeared for interviews it actually helped me a lot
Chief
Thanks a lot for your inputs friend
Please don't tell anyone nor even a family or friend that you are giving interviews. If you tell anyone, you will have to naturally feel guilty in revealing them the negative results.
If you have got rejected in 25 interviews, that means you will start getting selected from now onwards, as you have got the standard questions that are generally asked in interviews, by now.
Chief
My family stays with me only, so they someway or other come to know about it.
Yes, from last few interviews most of the questions I am receiving are common to me, and I am getting positive feedbacks too from the interviewer after the interview... But eventually I receive rejection mail only ☹️
You are almost there. Keep it up. Don't quit now. Try to retrospect what went wrong and fill the gaps. The success is around the corner :)
Chief
Thanks for your words friend
Take the failures positively and try to improve from the failure experiences . Success and failures are just an outcome of an event .. it should not disturb you much
Chief
Thanks a lot 🙏🏻