Fellow HR professionals: anyone ever been in a position where new leadership (VP of HR) came in to an otherwise seasoned team and is clearly not VP material, unprofessional, can’t be trusted, and two of the team members have already left within a yearish of her coming in because they can’t abide by the decisions she makes and how she operates? Basically, as a friend posed the question - “who does HR go and talk to when the head of HR is the problem?”

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no one. we dont have anyone in those situations. if you cant deal, leave.

i see ppl suggesting the CEO...... umm, lmao.

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I figured as much. And our CEO isn’t exactly approachable anyway. Just makes me sad to love the environment and work itself, the employees and people I work with throughout the rest of the org, my flexibility, etc, and have one bad leader ruining it.

Yes have had the experience in previous org and my friend also had an experience. Hard to deal

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The CEO or the person that was in charge of hiring them. Who do they report to?

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CEO. Not exactly the most accessible or approachable person, and she’s likely retiring in next couple years but no set timeline. None of us are sure if the CEO has any awareness of problems since we all keep things running smoothly and other leaders in the org come to us vs the VP. I’m not a point yet where I’d attempt approaching the CEO (and be prepared to leave if changes didn’t happen), but the struggle is real at this point. I loved my job previously and still love so many aspects of my job (paid very well after recent comp analysis, flexible schedule, etc) but it’s stressful to know you can’t trust your boss and don’t have anyone to learn from or ability to develop new skills. Hate feeling stuck and losing the good people I could rely on for so much.

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What a challenging circumstance you're in. I hope this issue is resolved as soon as possible because the incompetence is starting to have a negative effect in your department.

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Your leadership is most likely aware of the change and the new person is framing it as “positive attrition”. Attempts to go above his head will not work out well, for you. Either keep your head down, do your job, and draw a paycheck… or find a new job opportunity.

Or both!

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Happened in our team.
Our leadership changed overnight and the new VP was incompetent and really difficult to deal with.
80% of our team left within the next 2 years, and our Manager couldn’t stop raving about how it’s a good thing. And how they can now build the team from the ground up.

No one wants to hear that the VP is a moron who can’t do their job.
I waited for 2 solid years hoping things would change.
They didn’t. My sole regret is not moving out sooner.

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Yikes this sounds so frustrating to deal with. There's nothing worse than having to listen and report to someone who clearly has no idea what they're doing. If people are beginning to jump ship, I think your options are confront your VP about it, potentially with documentation or as a team so that it feels more like a conversation and less like an attack. Otherwise, it's time to get the CEO involved. Unless you can effectively work and run things around this person (which it sounds like you can't) I wouldn't wait any longer. You're just wasting time you could spend either trying to fix your current situation or finding a better one.

😣 Ugh.

Definitely depends on the organization. If you look at your org chart, who does HR roll up to? In my case, the COO is ultimately responsible for the HR department. If it were a truly DIRE situation, I’d go to him because he’s approachable. Again, really depends because each company is different.

Ohh. That would be a difficult situation. It might even start an internal conflict.

Like said VP hiring a friend for a generalist role, then promoting them to an associate role in 8 months, and none of us being able to trust the person? Yeah. It’s a disservice to them and the already existing team.

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