Fellow 🐠 I’m so mad that I need to rant (and maybe get your input cause I’m not thinking straight right now). After 5 weeks of waiting, an offer was finally extended...

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Can I play devils advocate here and just say that it doesn’t really cost you much to basically say “give me 280k that is MY firm offer” and if they don’t give it to you, then you walk. You were going to walk anyway at the 220k so just email them back and say, we talked before about 280k, this was not expectation. I’m firm about the 280k, can you make that work? This would take probably like 10 minutes to type up and send. Might as well try.

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Then walk. It sucks, but it happens.

I went through a similar process with a position recently--initially discussed $180, the recruiter said the band went to $170, which was close enough, so I went through the ~6 week process. They came back with a hard offer of $119 base and $26 sign on, at which point I politely thanked them for wasting my time and moved on.

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HR/recruiters are idiots sometimes.
Thank them for their time, and move on.

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So they admitted making a mistake when they entered the position in the system. The offer I got was the best they could do. I politely declined it and wished them best of luck. What a bummer. Also can’t believe they are paying $220k for L6.

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No this is total comp. Rather reputable tech company.

We initially discussed their comp band ($280k ballpark) and my expectation. Although there was a slight gap, it was small enough that we agreed we should continue and work something out if I’m a good fit. Even last Fri, the recruiter was anchoring to that original number. I received a concrete number over the phone today and it was substantially lower ($220k) and it sounded like internally they can’t go higher as that’s how much people at the same level are making. I would usually counter but it came so low that I feel like there’s no point in discussing any further. Not sure if they are low balling to see how I would react or just the process was messed up (candidate experience was so bad). Not sure what to do here but in just angry...

Pretty sad I'd say. But there are plenty of other companies out there, so I guess you'll have to keep looking.

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Try to negotiate. Ask for the 280k+ you originally requested. Email may not be the best option. So request a discussion to assess how the offer could be improved. Be willing to walk. If they're trying to pull some BS on you this early, or they're just badly organized internally, maybe you're dodging a bullet.

To give you more context, my ask was $320-330k. I was thinking maybe we could come in the middle and land around $300k as I knew this company pays a bit less compared to other big tech. This move is driven by my pursuit of WLB and happiness so I was expecting some pay cut but not by this much. I think what might be happening is she gave me L6 number while my peers in this group are all L5. Heck my hiring manager might be L6. If that’s the case, I cannot over come this structural issue. Or maybe, I got down leveled after the interview. I will do a final push tomorrow but I’m ready to walk. I also know that there’s no one else solid in their candidate pipeline.

Echoing the earlier sensible sounding recommendation from G1. If you don’t ask, you won’t get

Yeah I’m asking. That’s why I told her I need to think about it and we can connect again in the next few days.

I wouldn’t do them the courtesy of thinking about it for even a few minutes. This happened to me and my reply was simply “no thank you”

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Recruiting is where companies put their best foot forward. It never gets better. Ever. Only take an offer if you’re really excited about it. I’d express my frustration to the recruiter and decline.

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