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Found out my ecd is a flat-earther. Anyone in NYC hiring? I need a new job this week.

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I had the same reaction when I found out my ECD didn’t believe in the Oxford comma. Thanks and best wishes, I’m outta here. That’s just non-negotiable.

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So they think the moon landing was a hoax? The whole space program? All pictures for space? I seriously don’t understand the logic. How do they explain the sun and moon rotational patterns? How do they think we can fly from SF to Asia and then to London and home all going West? Do they think airline pilots are in on it? They think multiple organizations and countries and such have been lying to us forever? To what end? I mean, if you believe it, get in a boat and sail to the end maybe- prove it or shut up? I couldn’t work for someone with that kind of conspiracy theory mind. I couldn’t respect them as critical thinkers.

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Just ask him to explain time zones. They shouldn’t exist with a flat earth.

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Would you want to be trashed publicly because someone thought your beliefs were wrong? You job isn’t to worry about your bosses religious beliefs it’s to focus on your clients asks.

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Flat Eartherism is not a religious belief. It is utter stupidity.

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Wait until you find out he’s racist and a misogynist! Gasp!

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Yeah I’m not interested in someone who is taking multiple steps backwards in society.

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Are you speaking figuratively, or do they actually believe this? 😱

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Mediacom: not really. I’m generally surrounded by like minded folksiness folks who are educated and critical thinkers. This is not like a dog person working with a cat person. This is a boss who’s into conspiracy theories. Which has a high correlation with mental illness.

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Please imagine: Your boss believes men are naturally smarter than women. Claims it’s science. You’re a woman. Your boss believes love can only exist between a man and a woman. It’s his religion. Oh yea, and you’re gay. Your boss doesn’t believe the holocaust happened. You’re Jewish. These are all “beliefs” as much as believing the earth is flat is a “belief”. I’m not sorry for judging people hard AF for having them, and definitely not sorry for not wanting to work day in and day out to make someone who has these beliefs look good. OP, I hope you can work for someone YOU believe in soon 🙌🏾

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Antisemitism, sexism, and homophobia are not religious beliefs either. I cannot believe I am having to type that to clarify. Christian straight white male technical lead, try human decency. Holy shit.

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It could be worse; I work for people who think direct marketing is advertising!

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Okay now that we’ve all had a few laughs, for real, are any of your companies hiring? I need to get out ASAP.

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Grey seems to be hiring lately Dana.fahey@grey.com

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I’m so sorry.

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All things considered, if you hadn’t discovered this about your ECD, would you feel this urgency to find another job? From a creative and managerial standpoint, do you have genuine issues with him/her that make your job so unbearable that you need to leave this week? Serious questions. Not trying to make light of it, merely asking whether you’d be happy or at least content where you are if you hadn’t discovered this?

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Yes I’ve definitely had creative differences with him up until this point but this was the cherry to top it all off.

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To clarify ... there is a HUGE difference between religious and political beliefs and freaking science. Buddha or Jesus ... all you and respect either way. However, if you start telling me babies are delivered in the night by large white birds and vaccines cause autism, we’re not talking about a belief system, we’re talking about inability or ignorance to accept things that can be proven. No need for a system of faith there and, no, I’m not working with that nonsense.

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Earlier this year I was at a panel discussion where Elizabeth Cutler, one of the former Soulcycle founders, spoke. She talked about how her vision was to create a place where people could connect with themselves and others without judgment and yada yada. She shared a story about two regular riders at the DC studio who always took class at the same time and ended up becoming friends and grabbing drinks or coffee after class. At some point well into knowing each other socially, they realized they didn’t know anything about one another professionally. Turned out, one worked for the NRA (white man) and the other for a gun control lobby (AA woman, if memory serves from the story). They acknowledged that they never would have spoken to one another, let alone become friends, if they knew their ideological differences at the outset, and they were so glad that they got to know one another without triggering their built in political biases. In case it’s not obvious, the point I want to make is that it’s really unfortunate we’re in a time and place where we’re so quick to cancel one another when we find differences in our worldviews. It makes me sad that we’re creating a culture where the simple act of sharing personal POVs - no matter how crazy or unintelligent anyone personally finds them to be - rises to the level of vitriolic mocking. All that does is chill speech, and definitely doesn’t encourage open, honest and respectful debate. And btw, I agree with whoever said this ECD was trolling OP hard, sketches and all. But who TF knows. Even if he actually does believe the earth is flat, for whatever his reason, there’s a flesh and blood human being behind those beliefs. I haven’t heard any complaints that he’s in any way abusive, narcissistic, kicks puppies, super villain, whatever. If he’s such a shit creative that your portfolio is suffering to the point you worry you’re never going to get another job if you don’t leave right this minute now, then okay I get it. But life is going to be full of massive and crushing disappointments if we can’t get over the fact that we will always live on the same planet with a lot of people who don’t think the same we do. Are there seriously zero redeeming qualities about this guy?

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Yeah I’m not going to take creative direction from juror Irving or kyrie either.

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Can we help OP with job search in addition to your hilarious comments which I’m enjoying. But let’s help with his original goal

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oh who cares

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what you do behind closed doors is honestly your business. it becomes a crossed line when you bring stuff like politics or religion into work. then discuss why you are uncomfortable with your manager or HR.

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Is that the only issue or are there other things? I’m curious. I could laugh off flat earth If it was the only thing. But if they believe that, I’m sure there’s other false beliefs that go with it.

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CD5, I thought OP might be getting trolled. And I agree with you about cancel culture 100%, BUT the example you gave is not an equivalent though i think it's wonderful for many other things and parallels. The earth is flat / not flat is non debatable while, say, if God exists or not can be, or the role of guns can also be debated (I'm an atheist and anti gun). All of that said, I wouldn't be violent against the flat earther dude or deny his right to exist or his human rights. But I can still also choose and have the right to think he's crazy/not worth associating with or working with. I wouldn't call him that or hurt him intentionally nor openly but walking away and acknowledging his humanity are not two mutually exclusive things. I guess that's what OP is saying. I'm still unable to believe that dude isn't joking / a part of me is hoping OP will get back to us saying it was all a prank...

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Ah...then CD7 can take up that fight with SVP1 😂 I totally think that thinking that earth is flat is insane. But I wouldn't expend energy fighting a coworker or anyone over it. Seems like a lost cause

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OP - you come across and both very young and naive. The fact that you think you are somehow superior by looking for a new job solely because someone you work with doesn't align with you on an understanding of the world that has nothing to do with your job function speaks only to your intolerance and small mindedness. Understand that not everyone shares your beliefs and it doesn't actually affect you in the slightest. All you are doing is virtue signalling to like-minded peers who claim they love diversity but only have tolerance of others that think identically to themselves. It is this narrow mindedness which make the "woke" left sound as intolerant as any anti-immigrant Trump supporter.

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What @FCB1 said. 👏👏

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I had an ECD who told me U2 was his favorite band. Shoulda quit then

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I had a U2 CD. It made a great coaster.

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Yeaaaah, I’m going to go with “Your CD has an extremely dry, sarcastic sense of humor.”

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Nah man, I assure you that’s not it.

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OP, if you’re able without disclosing too much, how was this revealed?

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You think he did?

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