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Geninue question on a subject I don’t know enough about: If someone has a gender pronoun in their e-mail signature (e.g. she/her/hers), does that mean they are LGBTQ+ ?

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No, it doesn’t necessarily mean they are LGBTQIA+! They could be though. I’m cis and hetero and I have my pronouns in my signature so that people don’t misgender me and others feel comfortable to share their own incase they don’t want people to assume their pronouns based off of how they present. Others listing their pronouns also ensures that I’m not misgendering others based off my assumptions

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D4 I love it 😂😂😂 you’re educating you’re self that all that matters! I stan your daughter 💜

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Yea it’s more about being PC. I seriously feel the pressure to do this but am not LGBTQ+ (cisfemale). I don’t want to add it to my signature, but do think it could be valuable to for anyone who has a clearly gender neutral name. I don’t like seriously feeling the pressure though just to have it to be considered non-bigoted. Feel I’m being judged for not being PC enough for not having it

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If someone doesn’t have their pronouns in their signature that’s ok. I’ve actually been judged FOR having them listed (got badgered as to why I’d do such a thing). There’s not pressure to list them, where I work a handful of people have them there, the majority do not list pronouns. It’s just a good practice, if you don’t do it that’s fine no one is going to vilify you. The judgement comes when people think it’s unnecessary or “extra” it really takes no time or energy to do it (it may take energy from people who are gender non conforming and that’s unfortunate we live in a society where this could be taxing for them) just like it takes no time or energy to not do it

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No not necessarily. But it does mean they are an annoying human being.

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D9 - lots of friends here. Have a preference for less sensitive/self-centered people in my life though. Why is everyone so hurt by me saying I find the inclusion of pronouns annoying? I’m not asking you to stop, you have the right to request your pronouns, and I respect your preference. Personally wouldn’t care if you called me the wrong pronoun. Bigger problems in the world.

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I was not sure about the pronouns thing but then my trans friend told me it feels like a breath of friendliness to them and I thought it’s worth it to me if it costs me nothing and makes them feel so much better. And if it has the added benefit of annoying D1 then so much the better

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What is annoying about wanting to make my trans friend feel welcome and comfortable at work?

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Could also be an ally

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I see it as an effort to normalize asking for someone’s pronouns. Even if someone presents as feminine and was female assigned at birth (in example), they could still identify as a man or gender non-binary. I think it encourages people to make fewer assumptions, favoring the use of their/they/them until you know how someone identifies. That’s a good general rule 👍🏻👍🏻

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Not necessarily - it is just to increase awareness about the subject.

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Could be an ally and D1 is really annoying. Some ppl are just trying to shed light and become an ally.

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I like having mine in my signature because: 1) being an ally is great 2) I’ve had many clients respond “gentlemen” or something else cringeworthy to emails I’ve sent because I have an ethnic name, and they don’t know my gender (and assume I’m male). This prevents the awkward, hey actually I’m a female conversation. D1 - that is such a privileged comment. Please sit down.

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D1 *Neither you need to grow those spelling and grammar skills friend

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I love that the responses are basically boiling down to, "it costs me nothing to do and might improve someone else's life" and "the people who do it are so ridiculous they're definitely going to call me hitler for not doing so"

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I’m bi but cis— I have them in my signature to normalize asking for pronouns / not assuming someone’s gender, as well as to flag myself as someone trans people can feel comfortable being their authentic selves with

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No, just means they are PC, bro

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Mine are your highness/lord

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I have it in my signature to be an ally but also I wish more people would do it because I work with international people on my project and a lot of them I have NO idea how to reference them. I wish some people would even include name pronunciations so I can pronounce their names correctly

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They/them is an easy default when you don’t know

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Some people have gender neutral names. So it helps clarify how to address them. Not only an LGBTQ thing.

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Straight white dude here that does it. I do it to be inclusive of others. Took me all of 15 seconds to do, and can make others feel safe. Extremely glad to work for a firm that encourages it since it’s really sad to see people in leadership positions here actively discouraging an action that makes others feel included.

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Good question. A reminder to create opportunities for one another. On a separate note, my pronoun is: Supreme Leader

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Interesting responses. I am a straight male with an ethnic name, often accidentally get called “Ms” in e-mails, but that never really bothered me. Everyone is different I guess though. I can see how specifying pronouns in signatures can put some folks at ease & maybe remove doubt.

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I’m a woman and my name is gender neutral in my culture. I’ve been referred to as Mr and Sir and my pronouns really help mitigate that too

So we are not restricted to 3 genders from 2? Why not an infinite number of genders? Anyways annoying I’m assuming

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