Got an offer at one of the MBB and in process for Accenture in their Strategy division (CEO & ES). For MBB, would be coming at a level below (PL/EM) with 1 year tenure and Accenture would be lateral (SM). Leaning towards the MBB offer as it has been my dream to get into MBB and the overall value proposition.

Is there any strong reason to prioritize Accenture Strategy over MBB in this case? Would appreciate your thoughts. Thank you.

like
Posting as :
works at
You are currently posting as works at
Highlighted IconHIGHLIGHTED

Go MBB.

ACN SM here (not Strategy). Strat is our "looks nice on the marketing slides" bit but is actually comparatively insignificant in terms of revenue in comparison to other services.

This is a publicly traded company here. Go ahead and have a wild guess on who gets a pat on the back for being "the smart ones" and who gets the bulk of the bonuses and promotions?

Yup ... shareholder value rules!

likesmart

I would seriously consider how many people giving you advice workshop MBB while not knowing anything about it.

I would seriously consider the ACN role.

SM equivalent at Accenture should be coming in as PL here so you are taking a significant career hit.

If you come to MBB as a lateral you will only do digital consulting - tech strategy at best but we also use these guys a lot for PMO etc.

It would be nearly impossible for you to be doing corporate strategy - we have a separate stream that we grow from As for that, and we dont mix them (ie you will have separate town halls etc.)

You will also work much longer hours, and also expect to get no real client time until you are well tenured PL. true client relationship won’t happen until close to partner or at partner (non-equity; pre MDP).

You need to consider your life stage and where you are at in your career and what you want out of it. You have little chance of getting better quality work than you’ll get at Accenture (work likely the same). You’ll have a significantly more junior role, be working much longer hours.

If it works out maybe in 4 years + it’ll be worthwhile financially. And possibly you’ll be one of the more successful laterals. Based on the fact they are double down levelling you, it doesn’t appear the recruiting team think so.

I hope you find this advice helpful. A lot of people here have an MBB or bust attitude that doesn’t help people make good career choices

like

BCG2 I think you’re misreading their original post. They’d come in at PL, a step down from SM.

like
Recent IconRecent

Nah, go MBB unless you really like tech. Our CEO & ES practice is the best at accenture but skewed by our overall tech focus

like

Thank you ACN1. That’s helpful

Go MBB please. There’s a lot of negative sentiment in Strategy and we’re seeing loads of people leave. Comp has been flat and may even drop since they’re reworking standardized progression point pay.

like

Thank you SC1. Is the negative sentiment mainly due to comp or a bunch of internal issues?

You need to seriously consider a risk that you may not make it to the next level at MBB. It’s notoriously difficult for senior lateral hires to survive the first 2 years.

like

Sure

Currently leaving accenture strategy for MBB

likefunny

Can you dm me? For some reason it won’t let me

Second what A1 said. Go MBB 100 out of 100 times

like

Thank you C1

I think the answer is more nuanced - lateral experienced hire into MBB has a very high burnout rate and most people don’t make the next level. Plus it takes time to learn the MBB way - depending on which firm you join and in my experience most experienced hires hate it unless they come in as an associate.

That said as someone in ACN CEO practice - it’s interesting and good work but you really need to want to make MD for the financials to work - and your exits won’t be as strong. But it’s not a slam dunk

like

Thank you everyone for your thoughts and advice. Really appreciate the time you took to help me evaluate the situation. I have decided to sign the MBB offer.

like

Which firm?

MBB; the pay will be similar if not higher

like

Thank you C2, P1, and ACN3. I see your point P1 about the half step down.

Go to MBB call acn back in a year or two then get acn to give you a raise and a promo easy money

like

I'm on the same boat, am a AP/Principal at a Tech Consulting firm and got offered a PL/EM role at MBB. Careerwise seems a stepback and moneywise a small increment.
Also being close to my 40s makes me wonder if all the burnout (over me and my family) in the next 1 to 2 years will be worth it ..

like

As a former ACN employee… take the MBB offer for all the reasons above

like

Good choice! (Coming from some downleveled when moving to BCG)

like

Where are you leaving from?

From T3.

Related Posts

like

Johnson & Johnson Does anyone have any insight into the work culture at Johnson & Johnson in the legal department? Also, how would companies look at an an associate moving from a law firm trying to negotiate on pay to account for the bonus they would have got at the firm? Thanks!

like
like

Hey Guys,

I submitted my documents to UBS HR on last Wednesday but haven't heard back from them. Can anyone who has recently joined or have been offered share his/her experience like

How much time they takes after document submission?
How much time they takes for offer letter after salary discussion?

Thank you.

like

If we actually did move to a single payer healthcare system (Medicare for all) and companies no longer offered healthcare plans, would you switch from staff to freelance?

like

What kind of hours does PWC risk assurance work throughout the year? Fall busy season? Also, do you travel a lot?

like

Being given a PE ops role which would put me on a 6 year track to partner vs 3 year track if I stay in consulting. Pros/Cons of taking this role?

like

Hi fishes, in urgent need of your suggestions.

One of my friend is having offer from
Oracle Pune for software developer role in Oracle store team. but he does not have clear idea of the role whether it will be operations, support or development work.

Does anyone know what kind of work is there in store team. Also, is it possible to change the project once we get inside?

Urgent suggestions required...

Thanks!

How is working at Charles Schwab? Anyone has insight on IT strategy & transformation role?

Capegemini Or accenture

I have offer from 2 organization for devops manager role with same CTC which one is better organization from the work life balance, job security and from long term perspective pls guide

like

Hi folks,

what will be my in-hand salary for below offer from hcl. For 11 LPA CTC 10 fixed and 1 variable.

like

How is Milbank’s project finance team? Work / life balance? Hours? People you work with?

like
like

What’s the average salary for EY GPS Experienced Staff?

I have < 1 year exp in Salesforce and really looking forward to building career in this ecosystem.

My function is in Technical Support and it is not very rewarding considering WLB & Compensation.

Can anyone please share some insights on how they moved upto better job roles and where should I begin?

like

I'm looking to pivot from consulting into tech. I've gotten lots of interesting from tech companies on the ops side but am much more interested in product management.

Any advice on books or courses to help make the transition? I'm struggling to land PM interviews at companies that aren't tiny startups :(

like

Is the work culture at Siemens Technologies and Services Pvt. Ltd. good?
I heard it's like service based and the policies are different than other Siemens entities, is it? 😢

like

Interview tips for getting a job at NextRoll? Any reviews about the company?

like

Trying to gauge salary ranges for middle office Associate roles at RBC CM (Toronto). Can anyone help me out? For someone with approx 5 YOE. Thanks in advance.

like

More Posts

like

My boyfriend has given soo many red flags over the past year but we’ve been trying to make it work. Heated arguments consistently every other week. We disagree on a lot of “expectations” in a relationship. He can be controlling and quick to get angry, and I just can’t take this emotionally anymore (esp when he blames me for making him angry). Tips on getting through the break up convo when you know it’s the right thing to do but you love them & it hurts like hell to end things?

like

VMware is hiring for multiple roles
DM or share resume
sgaurav2109@gmail.com for referrals.

Java
Python
C/C++
Golang
Dotnet
Frontend
Fullstack
Tech support
Analysts
Automation testing

like

Hi IQVIA friends, I am looking for some guidance here. Currently designated at Indegene as pre-sales solutions manager but work pre and post sales till delivery construct gets matured. Have experience in solutioning and strategising commercial and non commercial global content & web production, marketing communications and Omnichannel campaign, along with Patient Support Program design. 6yrs of experience Any roles that fit my skills at Iqvia ?

like

State of Ohio:
Anyone have experience with Dept of Public Safety? Are they disorganized? Do they have a bad culture? I am starting to think they suck based on my application experience with them , compared to other state agencies.

Cvent, Gurgaon - Opening Associate/ Senior Associate. Looking for candidates with SQL + Tableau 2-6 yrs experience. Interested ? Please share your resume Cvent

like

What we can expect in L2 discussion in Capgemini, it is scheduled with an onsite team manager from Capgemini and its last round before HR discussion
Require your valuable inputs.
Capgemini

like

For those who dont have a finance background, what is necessary to transition into a corporate finance or financial consultant role?

Was thinking maybe MBA, but unsure if that's the most cost effective route.

like

Explain this logic: if you are fresh out of school and finish exams before starting to work- no problem. BUT once you start working you aren’t allowed to request less hours or part time because then you are weak or can’t handle it. Why must we break ourselves for this exam and our work?

like

I always like to wear super old clothes at home. They are comfy, but mostly importantly, I don’t wanna waste them by throwing them away. Sometimes I do find them very unattractive, and feel sorry for my husband. I am making good money and have bought nice clothes, but I always have this mentality that nice clothes are for important occasions. Anyone in a similar situation? Btw, I did grow up poor.

like

Hi fishes, I'm having 2.4 yoe working in functional testing in infy current CTC is 3.5 lpa and got offer at CTS for 7lpa ( 6.8 inhand).is this good deal?
This is my first switch. So let me know this is good jump or not ?

like

How are the hikes at Novartis this year? People seems to be quite here and not discussing much about that. :)

Fishes, what are your thoughts on companies with HR/recruiters that never return follow ups? I feel it leaves a bad impression of the company.

like

I haven’t used my credit cards in years. They may close the cards unless I make some transactions. Shall I continue to keep these cards?

like

What opportunities of growth do Sales Engineers have? All I’m thinking of is SE management but even that requires x number of years of leading SEs. How do you beat that or get someone to consider you for those roles?

like

Visa doesn’t have Sick leaves??? Why? MasterCard has 8 days of Sick leaves on top of PTO’s.

like

Hey I’m a CSM and have been in tech for 7 years, but I’m considering moving into law, going to law school, the whole 9 yards. It’s always been something I’ve kept at the back of my mind as a possibility. Curious to hear from you all what your thoughts are on the move - do you think it’s advisable, right/wrong timing?

like

Can anyone give me insight on Winstead Dallas? I am considering laterally to Dallas from Chicago & have a screening interview with Winstead coming up.

like

Anyone a former AA that broke into consulting? Need some tips and helps navigating into that field. TIA

like

Has anyone worked closely with any awesome CD's or Exec CD's. What made them so? Feel like I'm being swallowed alive sometimes...could use some wisdom for sure.

like

Additional Posts in All Things MBB

Had a networking call with a partner that said they won’t be interviewing until 2021 for lateral hires. Friend said that’s not entirely true, and to try networking with others in that same office. Don’t want to come across as pushy. If a Partner really liked me, couldn’t they make a push to interview me? 🤔

like

It's been 3 weeks since I submitted my application to Bain/BCG. No response yet. Am I doomed?

like

Starting McKinsey in Jan 2023, but wanted to ask if onboarding was virtual or in person? Moving to nyc and trying to plan

like

Apparently McKinsey has hit their hiring target for experienced hires for the year and will resume for the 2021 cycle.

likehelpful

Boston Consulting Group anyone willing to provide a referral to BCG please? Happy to chat about my background.

like

McKinsey/BCG folks - work wise, have heard a few times that the most apparent difference with both firms is the management style. Mck adopts a more top-down approach whilst BCG a bottom-up. Would you say this is true? Would love to hear your stories too!

like

Has anyone had experience changing the city they were interviewing for? For McKinsey and BCG. How early did you talk to the recruiter about it, and what was the outcome?

like

Any Boston MBBers? What is the culture in your office? Are you actively still hiring or is the hiring frenzy over? Would you say the people are happy?

like

MBA 1st-year here - is it too soon to start networking with a firm with intention to re-recruit for full time in august? When is the earliest you recommend I start networking and potentially connect with a recruiter there?

like
like

Anyone in an implementation role at MBB? Care to chat about the role and expectations?

Are BB also hiring like crazy right now, or is it just M? And if I started at my current place like 3 months ago and let's say I get an offer from a MBB, would pivoting be frowned upon or be considered "burning bridges"?

like

I have an interview coming up for BCG but due to some personal reasons might need to push it a few weeks. What’s the likelihood the firm will be OK with pushing / is it even worth asking?

like

Thinking to apply to MBB and Looking for a casing partner. DM me please.

like

Bain & Company Can any Bain & Company fish provide insight on Bain's expense policy? When WFH, at client site (outside of based city) and when working with local client...
It would also be helpful to provide insight on travel policy - first class in which flights, always 5-star hotels? Etc.
Thank you!

like

Can we only leverage one referral for an MBB application? I have multiple potential referrers and deciding who to approach.

Also, what information are they expected to include when making a referral?

like

For sterling background check, did you list high school jobs? It says to include all employment over past 7 years, including part time but seems like that would be excessive

like

Does comp differ for partners in the social sector/public sector practice at mck/BCG? Does the work feel """meaningful"""

likesmart

Any tips for the McKinsey Problem Solving game?

like

McKinsey & Company Bain & Company How is MBB's Human Capital Consulting practice? I also have an offer as FAANG Product Manager in the same city with similar compensation. I have 7YOE in risk management at an industry specific (tech) boutique investment bank.
McKinsey & Company Boston Consulting Group Bain & Company

New to Fishbowl?

Download the Fishbowl app to
unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.
That was just a preview…
Sign Up to see all discussions
  • Discover what it’s like to work at companies from real professionals
  • Get candid advice from people in your field in a safe space
  • Chat and network with other professionals in your field
Sign up in seconds to unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.

Already a user?
Login here

Share

Embed this post

Copy and paste embed code on your site

Preview

Download the
Fishbowl app

See what’s happening in your industry
from the palm of your hand.

A phone with Fishbowl app

Send download link to your phone

OR

Scan your QR code to download
Fishbowl app on your mobile

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use and Privacy Policy.

Messaging rates may apply

Download app

Sign up for free to view this conversation on Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use and Privacy Policy

Already have an account? Log in

Sign up for free to continue using Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use(New) and Privacy Policy(New)
Messaging rates may apply

Already have an account? Log in

For account settings, visit Fishbowl on Desktop Browser or

General

Legal