Got an offer for a great brand side role. Great compensation. Interesting company. Should open doors in the future. but the title is very Junior. I shouldn't dwell on that, right? It's the only thing that has me scratching me head, but I shouldn't be, right?

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Agencies have grossly inflated titles. Like mine.

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nailed it

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There is nothing wrong with being a highly paid Jr. Vice President.

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Brand side titles don’t really match at all. My last agency had 30 year old SVPs who managed two people while VPs where I am now oversee teams of 50+ and have 20+ years of experience.

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I’ll add lots of tech companies have flat titles and then different levels within them. I have the same title as someone who worked as an ecd but I bet he makes like 100k more than me.

Look up the title on linkedin within that company and in the category and see how you compare. Brand side, at large companies, Director can be an extremely senior title. There are only 11 VPs total at Apple.

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Congratulations on getting a job at Facebook.

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I was in your situation not long ago. Got a real good offer, paid more than my agency salary... but the title was - no joke - “manager something something”. My ego was screaming noooooo inside my head. Could I go from a bigger title to a pretty much junior level title even if responsibility were the same as agency and money was BETTER? I literally couldn’t. I negotiated a better title and they actually thank me for bringing it up upfront.

Thinking about it now and I feel so silly but no regret. Not only my ego is happy but I just think it reflects my real R&R and helps the perception of others about me. More often than not the in house companies need guidance because it’s new to them.

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I once asked a group of people which they would rather have: great money or great title. Everyone said money. In practice, people choose title too many times.

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Really people choose not having it all. That is an option. Create and strategize. If that's what we do then why not also do it selfishly? Just sayin

I went from the high end of director to “Senior Manager” comp and responsibilities equate to Sr./group Director agency side. I miss the title but there are fewer layers here.

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I once asked a group of people which they would rather have: a great title or great pay. All said great pay, yet we all worked at a place without great pay and used titles to make up for it.

I would less concerned about the title. You can always change it as your experience evolves

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Remit and compensation. That's a that matters. Brand side titles are all out of whack.

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You can also sometimes negotiate a different title. Especially if it’s a place that’s smaller and/or less structured.

Why can't you change the title

Olu, your naïveté and inexperience is showing. Large corporations have set job titles in their backend HR systems that correspond with benefits, salary and more. In most cases, it’s absolutely impossible to negotiate a title change... agencies allow for that flexibility as a perk to help employees feel important and that they’re making a difference (plus, as a way to differentiate in an agency FULL of just creatives - nearly singular function), since they aren’t seeing the salary, bonus and other benefits they would receive at a larger Corp; while corps are more standardized because there are so many more functions.

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And you "should" be however you are. Create an enrolling reason to change the title. If it means that much to you. May not matter as much as you think.

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