Grail is a Patek 5167a. What’s the realistic path to acquire one?

I was able to get my Submariner from an AD with a few month wait, but they don’t carry Pateks. Do I need to get on a list at a Patek AD? Do those lists move at all or is it a fool’s errand?

Is the answer suck it up and pay 2x retail from the gray market?

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I rather make a trip to Geneva and go to the Patek boutique directly and might have a better chance to grab one at retail in EUR though. If you call them in advance might be able to secure one.

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No worries! And Geneva is still worth a visit for the Patek Museum and the Czapek Boutique, and who knows, you might get lucky :-)

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I would go to Avi and Co or Watchbox ... will pay a premium but can get the watch immediately

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Let me know if you figure it out...

I have (well, had) a local Patek dealer who was part of a larger 3-store chain but was not in a major city. I would stop by from time-to-time to inquire about an Aquanaut...they stopped carrying Patek in the store before they ever even had one come through the store.

It can’t hurt to inquire at your closest Patek AD, but chances are you won’t get anywhere. They either don’t have a “list”, or they reserve the stainless pieces for the major customers.

Timeless has a green dial white gold one; might be able to negotiate a little on price for it.

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The Patek sport watches exist for guys who only want “sporty” watches (but are sitting in an office all day and aren’t randomly scuba diving) and want something that’s not a common Rolex. Is this watch better than a Rolex in any way other than the brand name?

My personal take is that for $50k or more, you can get a much better and impressive watch. Like a Patek chronograph! Keep the Submariner for when you’re in the pool.

For that much money you think would at least get a matching date window, but nah.

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