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Who is going out to big dinners today? Nonetheless, when we did it, we always just split evenly and enjoyed each other’s company.
I came here for this comment. Wtf are you doing going out with 10 people right now, OP?
Unless it’s an egregious amount higher, I think when going out to dinner with a big group you accept that you’re splitting the bill evenly and it is what it is. We aren’t in college, we aren’t going to line item a bill and split it up based on who ate what meal and who had a beer vs. a cocktail.
Amen. I was that underpaid person once, I’m not going to force my lifestyle on them now just because I make more now.
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I always ask for separate checks up front and generally avoid dining in groups larger than six. When I don't, there's inevitably always someone ordering stuff way more expensive and getting multiple drinks who then wants to split it evenly because they view group dining as a discount for them.
I’m kind of split on the issue. In general I think splitting makes most sense. But I do have a group of friends I don’t go out with any more for large group dinners. They just have a lot more means than we and it’s always endless pricey bottles of wine, oysters, apps, etc and I end up paying like $200+ for a $35 meal. They are a great time but I can’t keep up with that and it’s stressful to me so I always decline. With my own smaller circle - we either split even or deal with it after to make it easy for the waitstaff.
Split evenly or just roughly take turns paying the whole thing. A good portion of the time I’ll just pick it up if I think it will be sticky. I’ve got no time to spend with people who are stressed about who ate what or are coming out for one dish and tap water. It’s friction.
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P1 so when are we going to dinner?
I’m having a hard time understanding how so many of you are “friends” with people whose character you question and who you think are mooches. Splitting the check isn’t the issue, the flimsy friendships are.
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My issue is just with splitting with friends of friends. They're the ones who order in excess imo lol. My friends and I all split and cover stuff for each other.
I am a tiny woman, eat less, drink less and always split the bill, have always done it even as a penniless student. Don’t let bill time destroy an otherwise good meal!
I think it would be telling if people put their ages down too. I would hypothesize there to be a discrepancy between the younger crowd and the older (not factoring in finances). I’m seeing some comments where they seem to think we pull out calculators and start counting pennies and dollar bills.
There are apps now that split the bill in literally a few seconds. Nearly everyone in my generation uses Venmo, which also takes a few seconds, and has an automatic request feature (no conversation involved). Splitting the bill is not some big awkward hassle some of you make it out to be.
You guys should really use Zelle, not Venmo or cash app. Significant increase in security and consumer protections.
I just wanted to add, that in all my years of itemizing, only three instances came up where someone called me out on it, and implied that I was being overbearing/unnecessary. All 3 times, that person was the one who had ordered the most (or among the highest). So... 🤔
I know it’s anecdotal but that’s honestly been my experience.
Here is the right answer.
1) split the damn bill.
2) if you see someone is taking advantage of that to get food he or she couldn’t afford on his/her own, simply don’t hang out with that person anymore. At least don’t go to restaurants with them anymore. You don’t want these types of people in your life.
3) next, become rich and get rich friends in the process. Money should be the last thing you argue about with your friends.
Grant Thornton, where I live, checks are automatically split by the server, but thanks for telling everyone you're an a**hole so we don't have to guess.
To the people who say you always ask for separate checks, don’t the servers give you a hard time for this when it’s a group of 10+?
That’s right, it’s impolite to the server. That’s why I always volunteer to Venmo everyone their part
I just say the oldest person pays. Respect your elders. 🙌
I'm not inviting people who want to itemize out again.
It all comes even over time. If one person spends a lot more, often that person will offer to cover tip. But if you're paying $6 more, who cares?
I’m from a culture where people fight to pay the check. And then I came to N.A. and learned people are more than happy for you to pay their share. 😂
So that really changed things up for me, bc I’d go out with fiends or colleagues and they’re ordering 4 drinks and steaks and shared plates I don’t even like and I had to fork up for their food while I’m paying my student loans and they have daddy buy them a Range Rover. So yeah, I just do the math in my head and cash/Venmo the person paying cc now. Unless I’m with v close friends, then we’re spotting each other/doesn’t really matter.
When you don’t drink alcohol, splitting even means paying 3 times more than what you are supposed to. Is that fair?
If your friends don't pick up on that and offer to pay more, they're not very good friends
Where I am, we just get separate checks and the waitstaff usually asks as they take orders how we want it split. Is that not normal?
I’ve never known anyone to split the check at nice restaurants. I’m sure it happens, I’ve just never witnessed it.
People who ask to split evenly are the same people who order like 3 drinks 3 apps and a steak.....at lunch 😭😭😭
I don't mind splitting evenly, but I definitely know people who intentionally run up a higher bill when they know it's going to be split.
Perfect example:
- I've been to multiple group dinners with the same girl who always asks upfront if we're splitting or not.
- when we don't split, she generally gets a salad
- when we do split, you best believe she orders every app on the menu, and suddenly she can't decide which sushi she wants, so she gets both
I don't mind splitting and possibly subsidizing others. I mind people who actively want to be subsidized.
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A5, time to not invite him. He says, “I hear you guys went out last week, why didn’t I get invited?”
“Dude, you do that weird thing of ordering your own food when we’re sharing...and you don’t offer to pay for it.” Shrug and walk away.
McKinsey, call her out. If you’re splitting the bill just say, “cue Melissa ordering twice what she normally does” and laugh. Or when the bill comes say, “Melissa, you had 2 entrees do you should toss in x more.”
Loudly and without emotion. Just the facts.
Usually I split evenly, unless someone orders something absurdly expensive for themselves. It kinda ruins the mood when you’re counting pennies during a dinner party
Pay for everyone 😊
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Russian Roulette. Works equally in the long run 😂
Who even has ten friends?
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Separate checks in NYC or LA are tacky, embarrassing, stingy.
But if you go out to dinner in the Midwest it's a very common practice and waitresses will offer it proactively.
You should probably just go with the flow and agree to split everything evenly. If you find yourself frequently getting screwed by certain folks overconsuming...Life will fix that because eventually you won't go out with them anymore. as you get older you'll probably realize you have very little in common with those people.
I remember back in the day becoming enraged by some dinner companions who would order expensive bottles of wine 5 seconds before the check came and then drank the wine by themselves.
Now in my 40s, splitting the check evenly is perfectly fine because we're all equals. And I don't ever see those d-bags anymore, for multiple reasons, not just because they made me subsidize their wine.