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I would go with currently not interested. I get it, I was COVID riffed from Big 4 last summer as well and I can’t imagine ever wanting to go back. But I’ve learned stranger things have happened and never say never.
I got RIFfed and I was so pissed but they called me back less than 6 months later and I agreed to go back. No regrets. No burned bridges. But I have no illusions now and no loyalty. Strictly business.
Don’t respond or respond politely. It sounds like you built a bridge so why not keep it:
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Yes
Why burn the bridge? I know it's tempting to tell them off, but it'll hurt you in the long run way more than it will them. Life has it's ups and downs, never know when you might need a stable job.
Thanks y’all, lots of good advice.
Responded this morning thanking them for reaching out, but also made sure to add in that I’m just getting settled into my new firm after a 7 month search and am not exploring opportunities at this time.
Hopefully that struck the balance between polite/professional while also communicating my professional integrity/loyalty isn’t for sale.
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This is perfect
Question…. Do you like where you are? If so, I’d say thanks for the offer but you don’t think it would be fair to your current employer who hired you when you needed a job.
Agreed, at EY we’re all a family
I am firmly in the "don't burn that bridge" group. Reply that you appreciate him thinking of you and reaching out, but you aren't currently interested in making a move. Like others said, this partner may have had zero say in you being laid off.
Take it from someone who has burned a bridge before and lived to regret it. Life throws some strange things at us sometimes and you never know when that person will be in a position to give you help when you need it.
I don’t believe all of these were RIF situations - the situations I was involved with were performance based - not last in first out.
After saying that, and my experience of 28 years in PA - say thank you, that you appreciate the offer., but you are happy where you are. This is a much smaller world than you may realize and you never know when you may be in need of a position.
It sounds like you have successfully landed a position which is most important. Good luck.
Listen these things happen all the time and you should take it as a compliment that he reached out. Partners are sometimes powerless when it comes to these things. If you could go back with a bump in title and more pay I would consider it. Like someone else said, keep it strictly business.
At Deloitte?
As a for Deloitte employee, this sounds like something Deloitte would do. I thought the same thing.
Be polite and keep the door open just in case. You never know what will happen in the future
I suppose I’m also curious as to the level of involvement said partner would have had in making decisions on who from the group would be laid off? I wasn’t there long enough to get through my first review season or view my rating, and was not given any sort of explanation why I (in a group of 80) ended up on the chopping block.
I agree with Deloitte 4. In cases like COVID layoffs, it would be a last in, first out situation. Especially for the senior and above levels (Deloitte even layed off some staff). You were new and on the chopping block. This was clearly not performance related. I would politely decline sooner than later. You like your current firm now, but they may give you a low raise and/or low bonus in the future. Your old Big 4 may seem like a good option in that situation. Definitely politely decline, but express gratitude for the partner reaching out.
Wow! They really have thick skin. I’d make sure I relay in my email that I was part of their COVID RIF layoffs to emphasize the mistake they made in the past.
I left C&L for PW and thought I would never deal with that office again. Didn’t handle it as well as I should have.
Couple years later I was driving into work in the morning when C&L/PW merger was on the news on my car radio.
Just about drove off the highway.
Is it EY??
Nah…. It’s gotta be Deloitte
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I would say “thanks for keeping in touch. And after the layoff, I am currently happy with my current position. If anything changes I will be sure to reach out.”
Sometimes you have to remind them of the situation and maybe they will reply with an offer more enticing/money.
Politely decline. Don’t burn bridges in public accounting it’s a very small world.
Hard pass!
Why not respond and see how much they offer? May be enough to ease your pain a little and quit a year later. 😁 we all do it for the money, the right amount of money can make it easier to deal with some things