Has politics always been this nasty? I can't believe how blind people are and how they refuse to listen to what other people have to say. We have to make things for everyone and one party won't get us there, working together will

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Here’s how you have an actual discussion that either drives understanding or changes minds:

1) both parties begin with a fundamental understanding of their party’s foundation, and why they believe what they believe.

2) Party 1 raises and issues and takes a stance. Party 1 provides a credible source. This is almost always a report and almost never an op-ed unless the writer has experience or a stake in the issue.

3) Party 2 listens and analyzes the source. Asks “is this valid” based on history. Contrasts the position with their worldview, and introduces new credible information party 1 may not know about if this exists. Ideology shouldn’t play a role in this step.

4) Discussion, disagreement or resolution.

5) both parties learn something 🎉

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The modern day GOP has a real problem. There’s an information asymmetry between what they think they want to believe and American history. You see this everywhere now, but particularly around economics and foundations of Capitalism, The ROI on infrastructure investment, debt, Marx and socialism, Jefferson and Hamilton, the Nazi regime and why Goebbels was effective in brainwashing people, the Spanish flu, and it goes on and on.

You’re going to see more heated arguments when one party doesnt understand their party’s own history, but has some thoughts on Democrats, black people, taxes and solvency, big government, the civil war, trump, etc.

Tl;dr Republicans can use less YouTube and more books so better debates and policy negotiations can happen.

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You cited a beautiful example. The argument devolves so quickly when one side simultaneously believes that Lincoln was a Republican, the civil war was fought for states rights’, and that monuments to those who were traitors to Lincoln’s country deserve statues. Anyone in that conversation can and would bang their head on a desk.

Perhaps get rid of Trump first?

American poltical smear campaigns have always been bad. It's just louder now cause of smartphones and social media.

OP you do recognize that the president of the United States lies through his teeth all the time? When the party who's behind him is not calling out all his lies what do you expect to happen? How can you think will ever be any civil discourse? This isn't a both sides issue.

As others have pointed out there is a ton of intellectual dishonesty on the right when it comes to basic history.

They can feel free to argue that their policies are better for America, but in order to have genuine debate and discussion, both sides need to come to agreement on the actual facts

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