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Have any of you felt like you didn't belong? I just started with KPMG in January and I have nothing in common with my coworker's. Also doesn't help that most of them are catty 😕 I don't fit in here

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I joined KPMG in June and I don't really fit in with my office either! very gossipy and not friendly. I'm glad to know someone else feels this way. I joined into another group in the fall and love working with that group instead. We're all in different offices so if I get stuck without traveling for too long it can be a little lonely if I have to work long hours.. but better than working with some of the people on the team I was originally supposed to join. What service line are you in? Tax has the diverse work experience initiative going on - you can maybe leverage that to get a chance to work with different people to get a break from your office.

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Finding "your person" can be difficult. But once you find even one person that you connect with can make all the difference. Leverage your PML to network, attend as many office wide events as possible, and maybe even do a short term rotation in a different practice. I hope you find something to make the next two years fly by. I love this firm and think it can be good for you if you find someone you can relate to.

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Bear in mind a ton of people will quit etc. So the office will reshape itself fairly quickly.

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You might just need to switch offices or industry groups. I worked in or with a few different KPMG offices / groups and they were all very different. Some were awesome, some were dysfunctional. I learned to be entertained by the dysfunction.

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OP, hang in there and push through. You're there to do a job and grow. You will find your rhythm. I just transferred offices and am in the same kind of situation which is ten times worse than my last office :(.

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Some crowe offices are disrespectful gossipy back stabbing culture especially newyork office, dallas office, southbend, chicago. But if u check out california offices they are the coolest.
People matter and just because snr mgr does not promote harmony causes ppl to leave the firm.

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OP - how do you feel about travel? I was fortunate enough to be picked up by other offices for out-of-town jobs, which is how I found out that not all of KPMG was like my office.

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The other thing that helps is seniority. The more experience you have, the more people look to you to set the tone. So after a couple years, you get to help create the office culture you want instead of being stuck going along with whatever cultural elements you don't like.

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OP, I know some really great people in Boston audit. If you are unhappy in tax, give audit a shot. There are a lot of local clients in Boston that you wouldn't have to travel for.

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Based on your FB comments, that's not quite amazing at all and you would most likely run into that issue anywhere ^

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Also, don't engage in the cattiness. Rise above it and see it for what it is - competing people trying to stake a claim to "their place" in the food chain. Just do your job well and it will all play out. Focus on what matters with razor sharp clarity. Your job and growth.

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I think I'm unintentionally intimidating my colleagues on many levels. I just get so sick and bored of the typical pushover type culture that seems to be the norm at my firm. No one stands up for themselves, no one is direct really, and the turnover is so huge I don't really want to invest the energy in knowing my colleagues knowing most will be gone in a year. I also am gonna make a run for the door out of here if I'm not promoted this go around. I've worked with other Crowe offices on misc jobs and an overseas affiliate and felt like I fit in much better at the other offices so I'm pretty confident it's an issue with my home office.

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I feel the same way but for different reasons. It's tough being an introverted, timid person constantly surrounded by extroverted/aggressive/type A people :(

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Just give it some time. It took me a good year to find my place in my office. Now it's great. Keep your head up

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Thanks everyone for the kind and thoughtful words. I am currently in tax, mostly working on partnerships. I'd like to eventually get some consulting experience before I leave. I've considered audit, but I kind of hate traveling - not going to lie. I like going to the same place every day. But maybe I will feel more adventurous in a year and give it a try. I just want to enjoy my time here. It really does make it difficult when you feel like 90% of the department doesn't like you much. I will try and stick it out though as best as I can. And my PML isn't the most trustworthy, approachable person. I was actually thinking of changing to a different PML but I have a feeling that might cause drama...

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I'm a first year staff in Boston - I'm brand new

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I so don't fit into my firms culture I find it really quite amazing just how little I have in common.

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I worked in an environment where I was the only Trump supporter surrounded by some pretty hardcore liberals. Interesting conversations were had.

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@PwC 3 don't argue with/incite this person. There's no reason to go down that road. Rise above!

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Hey OP, I was formerly in Boston. It took a little time - more than a year- to find my rhythm - and now I miss them all so damn much! Like my heart hurts! To make it tougher for me, I am an immigrant and suffered a lot of miscommunications - all the time. Give it time, it's probably more a sense of curiosity than "dislike". When you feel like you are getting a negative reaction - just step back and ask yourself whether you could look at things from the other person's perspective. And maybe with a more positive image (the best case scenario) for yourself.

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