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I don’t know anyone who’s time sheet is an accurate reflection of what they’ve worked. People always eat time in my experience. Sometimes it just takes time to figure how to perform some of the tests.

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Yeah, and the thing about time tracking as well as 100% focus throughout that time is literally humanly impossible. I eat some time knowing I wasn’t actually probably fully working through the work...I’ll have mental breaks every now and then, intentional and unintentional. So really me taking the time down a bit is actually more accurate...really this billable hour thing is just an insanely stupid business model all around.

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Lol this thread makes me feel so much better. I eat all the time, but honestly it’s usually because I wasn’t actually fully productive the whole time...or I was not sure how to start. Therefore, me “eating” was actually getting it to a more accurate number of what it took to finish the project honestly.

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Well. If ur HR then no but if ur a homie then obvi. I’ve eaten my hours for all meals: breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

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Very filling. Love me an hours buffet.

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Why is Grant Thornton even included? Even KPMG has me questioning its relevance to the big3

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A little pretentious, aren’t we?

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Every day of my 10+ years in public accounting

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I never booked vacation and got a nice fat vacation pay out check when I left. My small bit of revenge 😉

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Nope. Anytime I was pressured to by execs, I just charged more. Disclaimer: I had no intentions staying past senior. Didn’t care who I pissed off.

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Don't ever do this....period

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Yep. Was specifically told to eat hours by my manager (and coach) at my first firm, then by a partner at my next firm.

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What a small world. I’m at Deloitte Chicago 🤔

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Never. I don't care enough about my job to eat hours. My bonus is mostly influenced by utilization and I'm not going to let that pittance go to waste. Not for some managers completely unrealistic budget. Never

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Told to by senior. Yup

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Lol is this even a question?

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At EY I was pretty much flat-out told to as a staff—god-awful senior would say “I know the budget says X hours but I only expect this to take *insert amount of time 1/3-1/2 budgeted*.

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When bonuses are structured based on managers staying within budgets and senior and below based on billable hours kinda seems like a recipe for managers to pressure to eat hours. Don't even get me started on when it's a fixed fee engagement and taking made up "losses"

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Every day fam

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Not once. Only time I’ve ever had a manager question me on hours was when I charged 8 one day when he knew I worked 12—told him it was an estimate because it was the last day of the cycle, and that I’d already upped it to 12 after the report he had was ran. That was the end of it.

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Good for you

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I don’t understand the question. Have people “not” done this?

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If everyone eats X hours every year on project Y...is it really eating hours 🤔

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Obviously a joke but I saw another comment talking about economics on a fixed fee engagement, which is nearly all jobs in PCS, being stupid - couldn’t agree more and find it ridiculous that people eat hours to make sure a “loss” doesn’t occur. Absolutely blows my mind and I have never done it outside of the last busy season engagement I was on before I was leaving audit for FDD...and really that was mainly because I HATE keeping track of time and inputting it as well (kills me how slow our system Mobile T&E moves) The entire system/processes in audit at PwC (I am sure the others as well) is a complete joke - a bunch of outdated partners making decisions on technology and outsourcing work to our sweatshops in India when they don’t understand and/or have never actually tested it out themselves is comical. Oh and let’s have a bunch of auditors make decisions on a business strategy - auditors have always been known to make great Ops decisions. P.S. - I’m genuinely curious if the rest of the big 4 has a scheduling system that feels like a fantasy football draft?

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I was told by partner, “this job is very messy, and takes a lot of time , but let’s try to bill less than last year” I’m new to the team , managers new to the team, told us both in separate emails to be “smart” even though “it’s messy and could take a lot of time, it shouldn’t”

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I didn’t think it was an actual thing but then my senior manager straight up told me to lmao

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All the time

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