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I'm a chartered accountant in India having a total work experience of 9 years in internal audit including SOX, Enterprise Risk Management and process based audits. Currently, I'm working as Senior Associate in PWC and my company is offering me an international transfer to USA. My preferred location is Los Angeles, CA. I need to know a salary range that I can expect, given my experience and preferred location.
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If you have no consulting experience, senior makes sense as long as salary meets your expectations. If they give you manager that's great too, but quickly learn what consulting culture is like at B4 if you want to progress well. Also depending on projects they have in mind for you, they might not be able to justify a manager right now.
That’s valuable, thank you! Yep, no discussion about the salary yet. Recruiter wanted to first talk about the level.
Industry levels and years of experience don’t map to consulting levels and yoe given the expectations are different. What is your level in industry? At the Manager level you will be expected to lead an engagement which includes managing client expectations, leading the team of consultants, and delivering the work. If you don’t have prior consulting experience, you need to truly be a SME to land at the M level. I’m sharing this based on what I’ve seen at most major consulting firms.
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You should ask for Director with 10 years of experience.
That is a good advice, D3. Thank you! I’ve been told so by my friends @ Big4 reg. network.
By any chance, do you know anyone who as lateral M-hire did good vs struggled? If so, any input is really appreciated.
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M is the right position for you. You might have to learn some of the “Deloitte” things on the way but if you get an SC offer reject it. SCs at Deloitte would on average have much less experience than you and the recruiter might say that they will promote you faster but it never happens.
Exactly the answer I was looking for. Thank you Chief!
I just got an offer for SC at D for 146k base. I would imagine that M range is 160k-200k
Numentica- MS’s and comparable masters programs do not get paid on a similar scale. As recently as 2019, MBA hires only made 140. Then MBB upped the ante to 165k, and all the other firms essentially rate matched. To my knowledge, it only holds for top tier MBA programs
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Alrighty! Thank you.
I am a SM candidate at D. Usually the way D makes offer, they consider you as High SC or Low M.
Focus on the pay first if you're getting the right compensation I would say you go for high SC position.. get in learn the culture build some network and move to M next year.
M comes with a lot of additional burden and perceptions are made in the first couple weeks. Deloitte can be a difficult place to navigate if you don't have any network. it is better to be a high performing SC than an average or low performing M.
As long as the compensation is good talk to the recruiter and coach (once you're in) and the MD who hired you, and push for promotion in the first year itself. I have seen that happening before.
Good Luck!
Thank you for sharing your perspective. That makes sense and I have been debating that very point - take a step back for short term, given the money is right. However, I believe the comp range for SC will be below my current TC. One of the reasons I am pushing for M.
Spotlight on you at M level will be much higher then at SC. Need to be able to perform at that level immediately or you will end up in a hole it will be hard to climb out of.
Thank you for the candid advice! 😊
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What is the difference between manager level tech SME vs non tech manager at big 4. I am in the process of interviewing for a SM level tech architect at Pwc. I have been an individual contributor for the most of my career. Wondering if the role is too big for me.
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Read the JD for SM role again, it fills with all technical terms and jargons, no mention sales activities at all.
Normally consulting ranks are a bit higher than thise in the industry e.g. a Senior consultant is the equivalent to a manager or avp in the industry. A manager is a VP or AD, a senior manager is equivalent to SVP or D.
The reason behind is is that as S.con you are expected to manage people, own deliverables, lead work-streams and present/report/work with senior stakeholders.
Some managers even manage their own engagements P&L having a bigger impact on the company revenue.
So even if they offer you a M position you need to prepare yourself to up-skill faster than every other new manager because if you haven't done any of this in the past you will struggle.
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