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Help me to set some boundaries with work. Being remote, everything is blurred together and my boss doesn’t respect that or encourage us to keep them. I like to start my day with yoga and meditation, but today I woke up with anxiety knowing I already have emails from the weekend, and just started working as soon as I got up instead.

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My girl ! You are me 30 days back ! No one on earth will respect our time & mental heath if we don't do it ourselves . So draw boundaries. Period. I'm gonna just say what worked for me, see if anything suits you at all 1. My work hours are evident on my calendar but still people dont give a Fck. So, i blocked my calendar a -1 hour & +1 hour out on my working hours. If someone wants to still be a dumb ass & send me an invite then then will have to talk about it 🤷‍♀️ 2. I uninstalled the work email app from my phone. Yes, this is a game changer. I dont get constant notifications which are triggers. Outside work hours, if i have to check my email which i usually do a lil late in the day/night(not right before bed) just so i know what is up for the next day i login to my laptop check & shut it down. 3. My boss is a total AH who calls me up on my mobile if i dont respond to his chat/ping within 30 mins. I allowe this a handful of times and later when it i was enlightened - i stopped taking that call- i just say i am on another call. 4. Please dont check your email right before bed & right after you wake up. 5. During work hours i give my 200% to just work nothing personal unless its emergency. Just so i dont feel guilty about not caring about it once i shut down. Last 2 cents: We are NOT doctors in ER. No-one is on a death bed & that fcking email can wait. I repeat this to myself every so often. 🙌🏻 YOU are important ! They'll replace you/me in a blink of an eye🤷‍♀️ but if we are burntout then its on us & there are people in our personal life who get effected.

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Thank you DAL 1! You’re right—some people do not respect us and our time. They don’t appreciate that we put in extra time and are available after hours—rather they take advantage, and take as much as they can get. Boundaries have become a big thematic for me during this time and hopefully I will take these lessons into 2021 and put them into practice.

Take your personal obligations, including those to yourself, just as seriously as you take commitments made to our clients. It is not easy and it is always work in progress, but the earlier you start, the more effective you become. Nobody does this to us but ourselves. With that said, tactically I would focus on: 1. Being effective in prioritizing and estimating level of effort. 2. Delegating and asking for help when you need it. 3. Effectively managing up sharing feedback from above points vs taking on things you shouldn’t be. 4. Block time off on your calendar. As a partner, I will tell you that I am far more impressed if an individual can have a professional conversation with me pushing back while providing alternate solutions - that demonstrates maturity and agility.

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Thank you, this is encouraging. My default is often to take whatever is asked of me without question, but I see that it reflects better on me to preempt requests and ask for clarification on priorities and delegation of tasks. Often a director may not know the amount of time required on something as they aren’t always “in the weeds” and it’s important to have open and transparent communication.

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Block time on your calendar. Set Teams to Away or Busy or BRB

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SM1 - honestly, I feel you because I’ve been in the situation you describe of trying to get a meeting on calendar and the only option being during someone’s block. I think the difference in my view vs yours is that I treat the block just as I would any other meeting. Just like if I saw someone had a 1:1 and would ask them or their admin if that could be rescheduled, I get in touch with the person with the block to find out if it can be flexible. I realize everyone is trying to do their best these days. And, I would tend to agree with you that errands should be reserved for non standard work hours. That said, in these ~unprecedented~ times I have been encouraging my teams to figure out what works for them with their mental health even if it means working in slightly untraditional ways. Hope you are finding ways to maintain your own mental sanity & respect the boundaries of those working with you. Stay sane out there.

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This is actually easier to solve - if you want to exercise and meditate in the morning, do it before you respond to anything or even let people know you're awake. If the anxiety of seeing and knowing there are emails makes you feel like you can't, switch to a regular alarm clock and don't look at your phone until you are done with your morning routine. In my experience, it's harder to gain time at the end of your day when you want sign off and you have been working with people all day (especially if you know people don't respect boundaries) than it is to at the beginning of your day and you haven't yet interacted with anyone, so take advantage of that to get your morning routine in.

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You’re right—it’s on me to stay away from my phone and emails before checking into work!

Only additional suggestion is to communicate and align with your team. Have had a few instances of late of folks boundary setting with no communication, which ends up being perceived as flaking, being inflexible and not delivering.

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Thats a good note :) ! Drawing boundaries shouldn't result in not delivering but definitely communicating should help with better realistic timelines to support deliverables !

Everyone is right. Write out your morning routine. Maybe even put it into your Outlook calendar. I wish that I wanted to do a morning routine because I think they are good for you... but I don’t have any interest in it! So do it! YOU are the only person holding yourself back from this! The work will still be there when you get done, refreshed and ready to go!

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Uninstall outlook/teams/slack etc from your phone since we are all working from home. Makes disconnecting so much easier to follow through. Total game changer.

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