Hey all - I know this group isn’t a huge fan of APs but I have an opportunity to buy this and want to get opinions on what a fair price would be. It has some scratches and doesn’t come with a box or papers. The reference is 25721 ti

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I’m pretty good at spotting fake Rolex but am not an AP expert by any means. That said, and with the caveat that this is a bad photo, some of it doesn’t quite look right to me? The bevels around the bezel look off, crown guards look to small, the 11 and 1 look too big. More photos coming

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Alright guys thank you all. I’m passing for now

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Yeah after the side-by-side slideshow from M1 I would not touch this.

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For $20k+, I'd pay a premium to get it from a known reputable dealer like DavidSW, OCWatchGuy, Crown & Caliber, Delray Watch. Don't go with someone you think is reputable just because it's a good deal. Number one rule of buying pre-owned: buy the seller

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According to Chrono24 one of these in perfect condition is going for $23,700 and up. As much as the dealer is reputable, I wouldn’t feel comfortable spending even half of that if I wasn’t dead sure of its authenticity.

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Who’s the seller?

It’s through a watch dealer that I believe to be reputable. He has a shop in the diamond district and has solid references. I would be surprised if it was fake but a Frankenwatch was something I didn’t consider.

I mean a famous rapper just got screwed buying a fake PP from a reputable jeweler in the diamond district. They took it back though after he put it on Instagram.

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It’s definitely worth certifying as authentic considering value is likely well into 5 figures even with scratches, no?

If they can’t agree, I’d walk away. Not worth the risk.

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I’m a big fan of APs but not one with this many complications. Best of luck finding the one you want OP!

I’m an AP fan and have a 15400. Make sure you have papers and boxes. Not worth spending that much with no papers and box incase you want to sell down the road.

Don't buy an AP with out papers n box

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