Hey everyone. I'm seeing so many people with 6-figure salaries and I'm starting to question my own for my education/experience/location. Making ~73 as a design engineer with 7+ years of engineering experience, a bachelor's in Mechanical Engineering Technology from Purdue, and working/living in Indiana. Am I right to question my salary in my situation?

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I have under 3 years of engineering experience with a bootcamp cert and no college degree, and I’m at 115k working remote in Indianapolis. You should ask a lot of questions imo

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That sounds amazing. What cert did you get and how did you score that remote job? Thanks for your insights

Made under $100k for 10 years.
After that pay quickly rose to about $250k at around 15.
Then rapidly increased to 700k at around 20 years.
Sometimes it takes time.

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I second this comment. My path is shaping out similarly.

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The people with the highest incomes are ones most likely to share which creates a distorted image of reality

$73k is good in Indiana because the cost of living is low.

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It’s probably true that people want to brag about their salary but this is simply sharing info. Was at $93k with 4 year exp in Indianapolis. But different type of work. Worked as project engineer for speciality chemical, specifying equipment and executing construction was my role.

Along with what McK said, many of these people live in extremely high cost of living areas. Your 73k in Indiana probably gets you the same, or better than, standards of living as people making 100k in high COL areas. For my own company, it took me a while on Fishbowl to realize that almost all of them live in high COL places, particularly areas like Washington DC and NYC. I thought I was making a low amount until I started traveling up there, meeting coworkers, and realizing just how vastly different our living standards were. I’m living in a super low COL area making the same as them and living like a king whereas they’re pretty much still fighting every month to find a small box to rent and live in.

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I did a bit of research into this. Looked to move out of Indianapolis and so I checked COL indices as well as actual apartments I would likely rent. I was at $93k in Indianapolis. In order to make ends meet for me in Chicago (same savings acct contribution per month), I would need to make $120-130k.

The short answer is that you probably should question your salary every handful of years to investigate what you are worth in the current market and to see if you have leverage to ask for more. However...

I think something that should be investigated in this app's community is the effect of response bias (or a similar bias that might be slightly different from response bias). Based on my assumptions (which could absolutely be wrong), it seems like the people who use this app are predominantly high achievers (generally question answerers) and people who aspire to be high achievers (generally question askers). Keep in mind that everyone here has the motivation and drive to be here without external incentives. Anyway, I think that the compensation numbers I've seen here are on the high side. People who post answers on here are (in my opinion) people who are proud of their accomplishments and who feel that they're doing well enough that they should be giving advice. These people are also driven to do so (for free). It's reasonable to assume that these types of people probably have above average compensation and/or are higher in the chain of command than the people that were their peers when they entered the workforce (like people from their graduating class in college). As a result, I think answers on here are going to be inherently skewed from the average.

With this being said, I still think this community is a valuable resource for getting solid advice and for learning what is possible. However, I'd take self-reported compensation numbers with a grain of salt. On the other hand, recruiters, career coaches, hiring managers, etc. that are on here probably give decently accurate numbers. Also, keep in mind variability that can be attributed to differences in industry, location, company, etc.

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73 is pretty low for a design engineer with 7 years. Are you a PE?

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I don't know of any PEs in my field, let alone in my area I would be able to work under for the PE license. I guess that's step 1

No degree here, lead software engineer making close to 200k

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Military, then ran the family business driving a truck for a living, during that time I taught myself how to code and eventually got into a PHP shop, then expanded to GoLang..no college at all besides a couple years of core classes and I flunked out

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If you work in Silicon Valley you’ll most likely be working 2-4x that

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Even as an ME?

The comments here are great. In addition, I would look at a COLA calculator if I were you. Data makes everything better.

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7 YOE Bachelors degree only, cybersecurity. Cash comp this year is 250k. Never too soon to make your next move best of luck OP

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I hear you. I have a similar degree with 6 years experience as a design engineer. I'm making $86k living in CA. I'm asking for at least $100k or I have to look elsewhere. That is less than base to survive here. I'm studying for EIT.

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Agree with the other folks. I think it’s combination of multiple factors some of which you can tweak
L/MCOL - most of the super large TCs on Blind/Fishbowl are from HCOL
Equity - most also include equity and the gains from vested equity
Industry/Company - some pay better than others regardless of location/role due high margins or lucrative business mode. I know “Stuff” folks earning 6figures in Midwest with <5yoe

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I started as an engineer in Indiana at 63k in 2019 with premium free health insurance and a 10% Christmas bonus. You should be making more.

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If you have an ME degree from Purdue, why not work for Ford, Toyota, GM, etc in the Midwest? I’m pretty sure they all pay more than that.

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I make $75k as a mobile dev, and I just hit a year (not at the company) so I feel you. I’m a bootcamp grad but I have unrelated degrees from my previous career too

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Honestly, $75k is really good if you're brand new to coding and came from a Bootcamp. College graduate Software Engineers are getting between that and like $100k (if you're not working for FAANG) starting out.

Keep gaining experience (during and outside of work) cause you can double that or more as a Senior/Lead Mobile Developer. Learn not only how to code features but also how to set up mobile apps properly so that other developers can contribute. Also learn how to deploy those apps so it can be tested internally and also eventually learn how to publish to the app stores. You might have to jump to another company down the road though so get the high pay numbers.

Think about it: if you know all the things I mentioned above, then companies would be willing to spend a lot of their budget to hire you as senior/lead and then other entry-level developers for the team.

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You should absolutely your salary. My first gig as an EE was for 56k/year. Other employers in the area were paying 80-90k. I got out.

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Definitely ask questions.

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For 3.5 months this thread was at peace

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Also, indiana is definitely MCOL/LCOL (LCOL except downtown indianapolis/Carmel)

I am in the same situation. Being on here has made me question my whole career. 10 years experience a similar salary and a BS in an Engineering technology and West Michigan. I work in HVAC/Plumbing Industry.

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