Hey Fishies, I've got about 6 years of experience and want to become a snr, but the agency I've been at for about two years sucks and I haven't made any work there. What do I do? Take another MW gig?

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I was gonna say you're not a senior with only 6 years experience, but did I read your comment right... You have NO published work?

If that's the case, you are nowhere near being senior.

Senior isn't just about how long you've worked. It's about work you've created, maturity level, responsibilities taken on, and, at good shops, awards you've won.

It sounds like you have none of those.

I'd worry less about getting a senior job, and more about getting a job at a better agency where you can start making work, maybe winning awards, etc.

Also, side question, cuz it will come up: how do you go 6 years without making anything? I've worked in australia and I know the quality and quantity coming out of those offices. Seems impossible to me.

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That's a really interesting way of looking at it, and definitely an an eye opening one.

I had to move agencies because I needed to be closer to family for personal reasons, and moving to this agency only gave me a $5k increase (previous agency was underpaying me) and the same title as I had before. The work they were doing was actually some of the best in the world when I signed on and they were winning black pencils and titanium lions.

That's just my situation anyway, to give a bit of context.

Are you in a major market?

If you are I’d do one side project (something scrappy and quick) and leave. If you’re not getting promoted and you’re not producing good work, then that place is hurting your career.

Yeah @OP if I’m hiring you as a senior creative with six years of experience (in nyc at least), I’m expecting 3 to 5 good, produced pieces of work and a couple good spec projects.

If I were looking for a mid level, I might hire them with all spec work if that spec work was very conceptual and well executed.

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