Hi all,

I’m looking to get some more context on an offer I got from Microsoft. The initial offer is for a Level 61 position as a ‘Customer Engineer, Security’ (formally known as Premier Field Engineer)
Offer is:
$125k base
$5k sign on bonus
$30k sign on stock over 4 years ($7.5 per year)
TC: $137.5k excluding yearly bonus and annual stock as I will be joining after the cutoff.

My background:
3-4 YoE (1 year paid internship and 2.5 work)
Certs: CCNA, SEC+, AZ-900, AZ-500
Medium CoL

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I had the same thing happen where the recruiter said this was their best offer. They would not entertain any negotiation at all.

I’d say take it for the brand and learning opp but continue interviewing and leverage your MS role for something higher if that is what you want.

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Thanks for your experiences. I feel as if this may be the same instance. I feel they are playing hard ball and won’t be willing to give me additional compensation unless I reject the offer. However that poses a risk of losing the offer completely. I’m fighting the battle of risk vs reward.

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A lot of the leveling comes down to YOE and you realistically only have 2.5 so that’s probably their indicator. The stock is directly related to level so that won’t change. The biggest thing that could change is the base unless it’s top of the range for 61.

A lot folks inflate pay on the forums. I wouldn’t think about that too much. I’d still take it for the brand name and then leave in a year or two

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Thanks for commenting on this post and bringing me back down to Earth. I can understand forums being inflated and that may be true. I think $125k base is impressive for 2.5 YoE. My nerves come in when I think I may be underpaid compared to market value and/or my peers around me. I am worried about potentially limiting myself in the future if I do decide to stick with Microsoft long term as raises tend to be minimal and not very frequent.

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My initial thought was that this was WAAYYY lower than the market value. Doing research on levels, blind, Reddit, etc., I saw 3-4 years experience should be a L62 position with salary being $150k and TC of $225k. Being a L61 I was expecting $140k base with TC being around $180k-$200k. I tried to counter offer for a L62 with higher TC or atleast a higher TC for L61 and was turned down on both. The recruiter stated this was their best 1st offer and there isn’t room for negotiation.

There are several other reasonings behind me expecting a higher TC:
1.) Azure accounts for 1/3 of Microsoft’s total revenue per their investor report and cloud security is at an all time high in demand right now.
2.) Position is Azure security focused compared to other customer engineers being in Teams, 365, or server.
3.) Job description stated average salary (not TC) is between $103k-$216k in high CoL area.
4.) Inflation increased 8% in the past year.
5.) Hiring manager stated they are in desperate need of this position (more than one job posted)

Recruiter stated this is the final offer. While this is a small pay bump for me, I don’t want to be underpaid compared to everyone around me and the market value. Am I being extremely lowballed or am I being ungrateful and asking too much? Should I risk losing the offer to get a higher TC or accept due to benefits and increase in salary?

Anything helps, thanks all (:

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