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I got an offer from Pwc. Sdc Bangalore. While negotiation the HR asked me about the highest offer I’m holding and then he added some more amount to that and told that’s the max he can offer. but now I wonder, he never asked me for my counter offer… thinking if I left money on the table ?
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Hi fishes,
I am facing problem while uploading documents to Accenture countdown portal.
I need to fill PF trust name and address along with date of exit but my LWD is in next week so I am unable to select the future date as date of exit.
I am getting mails like I need to complete all docs upload by one week before doj.
Is there any problem if I upload just before 2 days of doj.??
Has anyone faced this issue.?AccentureAccenture
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Not a bit.
I’m at a “top 10 firm” and was told busy season would be 50-60 hour weeks but it ended up being just as bad as, if not worse than, b4. This is tax so depending on your service line maybe there’s better WLB. I’d go b4 if I did it all over again.
Yeah I’m
Big 4 and have 370 hours over standard this year. Multiple 90 hour weeks over last 4 months. Just depends on client. I hit my record this week with 117 hours and can’t see straight.
The money today is a very small difference, and work life balance will vary by team. In a vacuum WLB will probably be better at the mid size firm but it’s really impossible to tell without working in that group.
Exit opportunities may be better coming from big 4, but this will really depend on how much weight a hiring manager puts on big 4 experience versus a mid size firm. From what I’ve seen, your exit will depend more on your network, how well you network, your specific work experience, and how well you interview.
So conclusion, I guess, is that if you do well, you’ll win with either firm
Unless the top 10 firm puts their hours in the contract, or offers overtime, the WLB is just fluff
If it’s the same job I’m taking B4
I always prefer to work for a smaller firm, as you have a much better chance of being seen, recognized and rewarded for your effort. IMO, Big 4 doesn’t compare to smaller sized firms, they’re usually ice cold and extremely cut throat.
Who are you working for? My dad said once “ Sometimes you are only one jackass away from having a great job”
Do B4
I would focus more on the path to promotion than the 5k difference in current pay.
Let the big four company know you have an outstanding offer with another firm and disclose the amount. Ask if they can match the offer or if they can do anything to compensate for it. I would say big 4 for the opportunity if you want to leave for industry.
Go for big 4. 5k more in job offer is nothing as compared to big 4 experience. You have long time to make more money if you at big 4
Top 10 doesn’t offer better WLB. There are numerous posts about this.
If you want WLB, go much smaller firms and hope for the best.
Tell the Big 4 to match. You’ll have more opportunities down the line to switch service lines internally, etc
You will never convince me that working for a client with a tighter budget, smaller purse strings, and messy accounting leads to better work life balance.
@bdo6 not for my clients. theyve been large companies on a fixed fee so we don’t really even track our time at all. its a huge luxury during your workday.
Depends on the top 10 firm and office.
In general Mm will be better big four in wlb. But it’s not saying much. It’s 60 hours vs 70 hours. Pick your poison.
Aside from wlb. Big four tends to have more toxic culture and environment.
But yes. In long run, big four will get you more exit opportunities.
Can you elaborate on "toxic culture and environment"? Assuming that you worked B4 before jumping to smaller firm, seems like a bad experience based on office or service line. I've seen loads of smaller firm's with truly toxic cultures and smaller size meant less opportunity to have a good experience if you had a bad tram. It's all relative and painting in broad strokes like this isn't helpful to anyone (or the profession).
Tell big4 to match or beat it and you’ll go with them. Don’t ask, tell them to match and you’re in. They won’t resist
Just depends on what you’re most comfortable with. Some people want the prestige and experience of working at big four on the largest clients. Other people are more comfortable in smaller office environments where they know more of the people who make up the firm. Either way you’re going to be getting paid well while gaining good experience. But as far as WLB goes tax is kind of just tax so I would not expect it to be much different between the two. I work at a mid size regional and my hours still spike up into the 80+ range around deadlines. Any firm can say 50-60 but if they schedule you more than that then it’s going to just fall on you to finish the work anyway. I do think that smaller firms may be a bit less toxic on average but it really just depends on the people around you in any situation.
I 've done both a top 10 firm and big 4 - if you want any sense of WLB you'll go top 10 firm. Hands down. Especially with higher comp its really not a question. If you really want big 4, do what those below said and go back to them telling them your top 10 offer and they will match it without a doubt.
Unless you are one of the very few strange people who want to become a partner one day - go with big 4
Pwc 6 knows what’s up
You get lots of mess with little audit budgets in mid size
Yes, top 10 firms DO have big clients but by no means those are a majority of them
If your goal is to get 2-3 years and get out - might as well do so at a firm that carries that prestige
If you for some strange reason want to make it a life time career - you can consider going to top 10
But even in this case - there are plenty of partners in MM that actually started their careers at Big 4.
All in all big 4 is a better choice if this is a question of value (both pay and exit opportunities).
Just don’t be silly and not ask big 4 to match your offer
Ask for $95k from the Big4. I am sure they will match.
What are the other benefits? Those could be a salary increase as well. I just took a job that give me free health insurance. That’s a $2500 increase to my salary from my last job. They also match 5% of my 401k contribution instead of 3% like my last job. Another few thousand. The bonus structure and potentially is also substantially better. The base is not always the end all be all.
Top 10. I moved to top 10 and got a 12% raise plus 8% bonus my first year. Pay raises and bonuses are leaps and bounds above big 4. Also work life balance and advancement is much better.
This is categorically not correct. At top 10, pay is generally lower, bonuses aren’t even close, and advancement and work/life are significantly lower than B4. I’ve worked both and have vast networks at both
Big4, for sure. A Top 10 firm is going to have the same kinds of time demands and likely less staff to support. When I worked a boutique (between B4 firms) the busy season was much, much worse.
And yes, more exit ops at B4.