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Im not searching for a new job but an acquaintance reached out about a similar role at a similar energy company.Turns out 2 ppl threw my name in the hat. I looked into it and the position was posted 2 weeks ago.Their director wants to meet.I bet pay is one of the first things to be discussed so that no one’s time is wasted.Am I crazy for not wanting to entertain it for less than 20-25% base pay increase?Is it selfish to ask for more? I’m sure most salary conversations end in negotiation anyways?
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That seems strange...
I'd thank them for the offer first, and then tell them to send you the offer 24 hours in advance of the call so you can better prepare yourself for the discussion and come with any questions
We review offers in Teams meetings or by phone, always. Great experience and opportunity to review benefits and answer specific questions.
Our goal is to avoid counter offers but we share that up front with candidates. We have very few counters and negotiations. Our recruiters are expected to do the work up front prior to recommending an offer.
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Hmm. Let them know you’re so grateful and excited to be offered the role and thank them for taking you through the offer and ensure that you take the time to review the offer offline before committing
My last job did just this. They asked if I had any questions during the call and I said, “Not at this time, but I might once I have a chance to review. May I reach out?” They don’t expect you to counter on the spot. After the call, they sent an official offer letter and all the benefits info. I countered the next day. Got the revised offer day after.
That wasn’t my experience. It was an active negotiation on all points including salary, PTO, company match, even technology.
Congratulations!!! That's kinda strange. I've never heard of an offer over a zoom call.
They must not trust you not to go back and forth with another offer.
Just be upfront & firm about your needs 🤷
I would join the call and the notes . The HR probably doesnt want to work on approval of an official offer without understanding your position . You can just listen and give general statements like “it is a bit lower than I expected but let me consider the entire package and come back to you . The job is exciting bla bla bla . “
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I would do the zoom and then ask them to follow up with a written version of what was discussed and agreed to.
This is no different than a phone call to discuss the specifics of the offer. Most companies do this and they probably are just leveraging zoom as the medium to call you. You are way overthinking this. You will still have a few days to negotiate.
Okay. Thanks just never had a Zoom call so wanted to know if it's expected to accept on the spot.
Seems like an intimidation tactic by them
I JUST went through this and I think for them they thought it was a better opportunity for them to encourage me to take the role by connecting and expressing their interest in me accepting and joining the team, and plus they clearly wanted to explain their health benefits over Zoom and be able to talk through it and answer questions because it's unique there. But I said thanks, how much I appreciate the offer, how excited I am about the role and the team, and that I'd review and get back to them. I emailed back after (next morning) to see if we could go over some questions I had and then on that call I discussed my counter and why. They got back to me by email after that with an updated offer by email. So two Zooms in the offer process, and some back and forth over email, but negotiating done over Zoom, and I liked the process and didn't find anything underhanded or unusual about it.
This happened to me and there ended up being a dozen red flags that I backed out.
Now that I’m thinking about it, one of my previous companies did this, and they got away with it. I couldn’t negotiate with full mind present, and it was what they offered on that call that they sent in the offer letter. Lesson learnt.
This just happened to me. Got a call from HR, they made a verbal offer, I countered. Then they called back 5 minutes later accepting my counter before sending the official offer letter. I don’t think it’s that strange but you should be prepared to negotiate. Definitely fair to ask for the $$ before though.
Hm did they call you to ask you to get on a Zoom call to discuss the offer? I mean, if it’s that stage then it’s odd. I wouldn’t make any decision on the Zoom call. Tell them to send details over to you so you can review it on your own time. Negotiating phase on Zoom is good though, bc it’s easy for people to say No on emails.
What is the expected salary per annum for a Management trainee at Enterprise holdings in the state of Georgia?
They just want verbal confirm. To get an offer approved I need to get the HMs approval. Then his HM. Then legal. Then finance. Then HR. Not to mention immigration / mobility or whatever for visa holders.
Recruiters want to minimize the time going back and forth with changing offer letters and with the compensation team since there’s usually negotiations up front. They’ll present you with the initial numbers and you can accept, which they will then generate the official offer letter, or, like most people, there’s some level of negotiating (eg, base, bonus, sign on, RSUs) to which they will need to take back to comp to see if it can be accommodated. They don’t want to print something out until everything is agreed upon.
Many places like to walk you through the offer first and then will send you a copy afterwards. It would be a good idea to attend and then ask for a copy of this so you can review offline after if it doesn’t seem like they were going to do that.
Use the call to go through the offer and ask questions and then tell them you’d like to review it offline and get back to them