I call BS on everyone who belives 67k seems fair based upon the OP's experience. The salary seems appropriate for a Project Coordinator. I don't know any SMs w/ a base of 67k. People should be compensated based upon market rates for the role.
I was at that salary 6 years ago with 0 years experience as a project analyst. You should look for a different job. Unless your location is a very Low COL.
You also have to consider region. Some areas cost of living aren’t the same therefore salaries for the same role could potentially be different. I’ve seen salaries as much as 6 figures for a scrum master with experience
Agreed, US might be 6 figures, but in some (NW) European countries 50-70K would be very reasonable (70K only with 8-10 years of experience in a well paying company).
Providing information on where you work/live would certainly be helpful BUT given the years of experience and the fact that it is FT and the fact that you just started recently with this company... The salary seems fair. ( Also what is your benefits package like!? That's another important consideration - if it's well rounded and actually meets/ exceeds your needs then you are off to a good start)
What you have yet to prove is your ability as a scrum master. So far you've obviously demonstrated that you're a good fit otherwise they wouldn't have given you the promotion and positive feedback.
I've been here before, starting as a PCO as a co op, doing more work than the folks who have experience/been there longer etc etc and wondering why am I not getting paid more - I chose to suck it up just for a little while. The key is to get as much experience (and connections) as you possibly can, prove yourself (evidence based) and you will be in a strong position to negotiate higher OR leave if you already have another better paying offer secured. Once you have experience and become a SME you can literally pickup contracts or FT (whatever you feel comfortable with) as you please and get paid well.
67k for as a CSM!! Oh no that’s low. It’s CSM’s making well over 6 figures. I have my CSM but I don’t use at in my current role and I make more than that.
Last question that I hate to ask… do you think gender or race could play a role? A friend of mine who had access to company info was able to peek and told me that her and I (only two women of color in our area) are the only ppl being paid under 100k… I keep trying not to think about it but I can’t help but wonder why or how I can better negotiate or advocate for myself.
At this point, I would be job hunting for a scrum master role to fairly get compensated. Plus never go in low with your salary negation. Ask the recruiter in the interview what is the salary range for that particular role. When they say the max range, go for the max! I wish you the best of luck! I was in your shoes before and quickly exited to something bigger and better!
At a minimum, you should have a base of 80k - 90k. Have you researched current market rates (Glassdoor, Levels FYI, etc.) or reached out to recruiters? It may be time to update your resume and interview externally.
Did you officially move from Project Coordinator to Srum Master? If yes, your company should have increased your salary based upon market rates. Your compensation does not match your role and associated responsibilities. Have you discussed this with your current manager?
While a SCRUM master should make more, you mentioned that you only have 2 years of experience and you received a small raise after 6 months. The comp sounds fair. If you want more money, it may be easier to land a new role and use your current position as a launch pad. Also, be mindful of the industry.
Thank you all for your feedback and perspectives, very helpful! I live in the Philadelphia area and I’m in the A&E industry more specifically for tech/data science. I know money isn’t everything but I do feel the value I am contributing doesn’t match the pay… I’ve talked to my manger about it, and he agreed and said he would talk to upper management about it but I haven’t yet to hear anything back…
I am a POC and I work in the Finance industry for both roles as Scrum Master and Technical Project Manager. It's definitely at least early 6 figures range. I would always negotiate whenever you can with proven track records of what you had done for both current role and newly added role. It's another responsibility. Two roles are not the same. And you should be fairly compensated for it. Also in Philly area too so they know how it can be expensive living in the city.
Being there for 6 months- you shouldnt even be thinking about asking for a raise. You agreed to come in for 65k and we’re happy. What changed that you didn’t want to change? They gave you a raise out the gate. 6 months is not long enough for you to prove yourself. Attitude is important. If you ask for more that soon, even though you have been given more responsibility, would reflect negatively. Two years- keep your head down and work with a Attitude of Gratitude- then you can ask for more money.
If you have been in the workforce for more than a few short years, you understand that it’s a long game. 6 months isn’t long enough to do anything truly significant. If you agree to a salary upon being hired- did you discuss reviewing it after 6 months for doing your job well? After all, they hired you at the agreed upon rate because they believed you were the best candidate to do a good job. Keep your head down and continue to make a difference. 1. You are getting paid to get great experience. 2. In 2 years, you won’t have to ask for the bump and if you do, it will be significant and without question deserved. 3. If they tell you “No” after 6 months, which I would absolutely tell you- is there another company waiting to pay you what you want? If after 2 years, your experience level will command a higher salary and finding a job with what appears to be a good skill set - take your pick. 5-10k over the next 2 years won’t matter in the long run. “You have not, because you ask not”. Is great advice if the timing is right. If the timing is wrong, you’ll look like someone who quickly becomes unhappy. Back to the Attitude comments- are you willing to grind and earn your stripes…. Or are you one who wants a bump every time you are give a tad more responsibility. I can promise you- ask at the right time, and it will pay off. 6 months isn’t it unless there was a preexisting agreement.
Get a couple years in the role and start to interview. The exp in the role will help you get what you are worth! Focus on outcomes on your resume. Best of luck!
JPMorgan Chase is having a VIRTUAL RECRUITING EVENT They have open roles on the Control Management team. Can someone tell me what some of these roles might be & salaries?? What is Control Management?
I call BS on everyone who belives 67k seems fair based upon the OP's experience. The salary seems appropriate for a Project Coordinator. I don't know any SMs w/ a base of 67k. People should be compensated based upon market rates for the role.
How long do you have to hold a SM role to actually be a decent SM worth anything more than entry level pay?
Where are you based? In my experience entry level Scrum Master is typically no less than 75-80k
I was at that salary 6 years ago with 0 years experience as a project analyst. You should look for a different job. Unless your location is a very Low COL.
You also have to consider region. Some areas cost of living aren’t the same therefore salaries for the same role could potentially be different. I’ve seen salaries as much as 6 figures for a scrum master with experience
Agreed, US might be 6 figures, but in some (NW) European countries 50-70K would be very reasonable (70K only with 8-10 years of experience in a well paying company).
Providing information on where you work/live would certainly be helpful BUT given the years of experience and the fact that it is FT and the fact that you just started recently with this company... The salary seems fair. ( Also what is your benefits package like!? That's another important consideration - if it's well rounded and actually meets/ exceeds your needs then you are off to a good start)
What you have yet to prove is your ability as a scrum master. So far you've obviously demonstrated that you're a good fit otherwise they wouldn't have given you the promotion and positive feedback.
I've been here before, starting as a PCO as a co op, doing more work than the folks who have experience/been there longer etc etc and wondering why am I not getting paid more - I chose to suck it up just for a little while. The key is to get as much experience (and connections) as you possibly can, prove yourself (evidence based) and you will be in a strong position to negotiate higher OR leave if you already have another better paying offer secured. Once you have experience and become a SME you can literally pickup contracts or FT (whatever you feel comfortable with) as you please and get paid well.
67k for as a CSM!! Oh no that’s low. It’s CSM’s making well over 6 figures. I have my CSM but I don’t use at in my current role and I make more than that.
Last question that I hate to ask… do you think gender or race could play a role? A friend of mine who had access to company info was able to peek and told me that her and I (only two women of color in our area) are the only ppl being paid under 100k… I keep trying not to think about it but I can’t help but wonder why or how I can better negotiate or advocate for myself.
Yes. Your company is low balling you. If they make excuses and refuse to pay you market rates,
ook for external roles. Scrum Masters do not make 67k.
At this point, I would be job hunting for a scrum master role to fairly get compensated. Plus never go in low with your salary negation. Ask the recruiter in the interview what is the salary range for that particular role. When they say the max range, go for the max! I wish you the best of luck! I was in your shoes before and quickly exited to something bigger and better!
At a minimum, you should have a base of 80k - 90k. Have you researched current market rates (Glassdoor, Levels FYI, etc.) or reached out to recruiters? It may be time to update your resume and interview externally.
Did you officially move from Project Coordinator to Srum Master? If yes, your company should have increased your salary based upon market rates. Your compensation does not match your role and associated responsibilities. Have you discussed this with your current manager?
While a SCRUM master should make more, you mentioned that you only have 2 years of experience and you received a small raise after 6 months. The comp sounds fair. If you want more money, it may be easier to land a new role and use your current position as a launch pad. Also, be mindful of the industry.
Thank you all for your feedback and perspectives, very helpful! I live in the Philadelphia area and I’m in the A&E industry more specifically for tech/data science. I know money isn’t everything but I do feel the value I am contributing doesn’t match the pay… I’ve talked to my manger about it, and he agreed and said he would talk to upper management about it but I haven’t yet to hear anything back…
I am a POC and I work in the Finance industry for both roles as Scrum Master and Technical Project Manager. It's definitely at least early 6 figures range. I would always negotiate whenever you can with proven track records of what you had done for both current role and newly added role. It's another responsibility. Two roles are not the same. And you should be fairly compensated for it. Also in Philly area too so they know how it can be expensive living in the city.
Being there for 6 months- you shouldnt even be thinking about asking for a raise. You agreed to come in for 65k and we’re happy. What changed that you didn’t want to change? They gave you a raise out the gate. 6 months is not long enough for you to prove yourself. Attitude is important. If you ask for more that soon, even though you have been given more responsibility, would reflect negatively. Two years- keep your head down and work with a Attitude of Gratitude- then you can ask for more money.
If you have been in the workforce for more than a few short years, you understand that it’s a long game. 6 months isn’t long enough to do anything truly significant. If you agree to a salary upon being hired- did you discuss reviewing it after 6 months for doing your job well? After all, they hired you at the agreed upon rate because they believed you were the best candidate to do a good job. Keep your head down and continue to make a difference. 1. You are getting paid to get great experience. 2. In 2 years, you won’t have to ask for the bump and if you do, it will be significant and without question deserved. 3. If they tell you “No” after 6 months, which I would absolutely tell you- is there another company waiting to pay you what you want? If after 2 years, your experience level will command a higher salary and finding a job with what appears to be a good skill set - take your pick. 5-10k over the next 2 years won’t matter in the long run. “You have not, because you ask not”. Is great advice if the timing is right. If the timing is wrong, you’ll look like someone who quickly becomes unhappy. Back to the Attitude comments- are you willing to grind and earn your stripes…. Or are you one who wants a bump every time you are give a tad more responsibility. I can promise you- ask at the right time, and it will pay off. 6 months isn’t it unless there was a preexisting agreement.
Get a couple years in the role and start to interview. The exp in the role will help you get what you are worth! Focus on outcomes on your resume. Best of luck!