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Just curious: is there any specific reason to move out of Germany?
I am trying to decide between UK and Germany.
Yep, I am sorted with pre-settled status.
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Could be that people struggle to work out the prestige/reputation of the experience. We love judging people based on the reputation of their school and employers.
Eg. Most people in the UK have never heard of D-Fine because it's heavily focussed on Germany.
Otherwise it depends on your skillset. There are queues of young professionals with 'business skills' looking to get involved in startups.
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It shows proactive hustle which people love but are usually too embarrassed to do themselves. Worst case scenario is people ignore you.
Highly competitive. In Germany all consultancies have multiple offices across the country whereas here the majority has their focus on London. With that a lot more people are competing for the same office. (I’m trying to make a career change and struggle to get interviews. Getting an interview in Germany was a piece of cake)
I agree. I turned down many interviews in Germany as I could not handle the volume after applying to various positions. Landing something in London is much more difficult but also much more rewarding in the longer run (always talking about people who are not German or UK citizens)
We’re hiring if you’re looking for strategy growth work. Your German would be a plus!
I’m German with pre-settled status too and went to a non-target university outside of the UK. I’m going through the interview process for consulting jobs at the moment and haven’t encountered any barriers but a few things come to mind: 1) at least from your responses here it seems you’re perfectly fluent in English so assuming that wouldn’t be a problem? 2) If you’re not living in the UK currently and don’t make it clear on your CV/application that you don’t require a visa, they will most likely assume you’ll need a visa and could reject based on that.
Visa can be an issue since 01.01.2021
Sure, then it should not be an issue
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Curious to know - is pay and savings better in Germany vs in the UK. Also is German language a barrier to get jobs vs no such barriers for jobs in London
OP most people commute 25-45 minutes in London so 1H is really not that much...London is huge! I think everyone in this industry can live a pretty decent lifestyle. You may not have your own flat in Zone 1 but few people willingly want that anyway.
Where are you having the biggest issues - consulting or start-ups? With both, I’d suggest your starting point should be your network in order to get a referral. Both these types of organisation are looking for outstanding talent and I’d humbly suggest that the normal application process is going be a difficult way to distinguish yourself, especially in the current job market. We have record unemployment in the UK at the moment so being outstanding is even more important than usual.
Consultancies are also feeling the squeeze so your prospects may also depend on industry alignment. Eg there is demand for security cleared people to work in government but good luck if you’re a manufacturing sector specialist because that industry is on its arse and not buying consultancy!
On the start-up front, my sense is that start-ups are rarely interested in hiring people with more than 3-5 years experience unless being pushed to do so by investors e.g. a start-up I work with, has a semi-retired CFO who’s been put there by their major financial backer.
Thanks to everyone who has so generously replied and helped me. I am genuinely even more excited to move to London at some point soon as you have such a helpful and friendly crowd over there 🙌
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Thanks again for all the tips! For anyone else reading this here, I ended up getting offers at one of MBB and Tier 2 in Germany. Never heard back from the referrals for London offices, except for ACN Strategy. Gonna start here now and potentially transfer in 2 years or look again with that pedigree under my belt. So, any German folks out there, good luck and definitely try to network. It was definitely harder to get interviews and offers for me in the UK. Cheers