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Absolutely, Quran was meant to be read in Arabic, something will absolutely be lost if it is not in Arabic, have you thought about sending your children to Islamic school or one of the parents staying home from work to teach them Arabic ? its a hard decision but we Muslims have to decide between the dunya and having more money from more jobs or less money less work and being able to instill the value and religion in our children they need for their akhira that we sometimes are lagging ourselves as someone who also struggles with Arabic
Def much harder to pickup later on in life. Now is the time to teach them to read in Arabic, and honestly it's a still I personally am super grateful to have. I've been trying to actually learn Arabic conversationally and having learned how to read Arabic has helped me significantly. Also has helped me in reading Urdu. I know it's a lot of work and expensive to teach your children that, but as a parent I think it's our duty to make that sacrifice for something that will benefit our children in the future or could potentially benefit them down the line. There's no loss in teaching them to read Arabic.
Totally agree with this. Knowing the script has helped me tremendously in understanding the Quran better later in life and also made my learning of Urdu much easier. I'd say my pronunciation MashaAllah is better than some native speakers of Arabic when it comes to reciting the Quran. Sorry long answer but please do teach the script and there are sources like Quranic that make learning and understanding Quran fun
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Keep Arabic. Transliteration can never teach you how to pronounce words properly. Who is going to teach them what the translation means?
All in all to retain it you need to practice and actually read regularly. The goal shouldn't be to learn to read but to actually implement. It happens in stages.
Def teach them to read Quran in Arabic, this will help down the line. When you are young it’s easy to pick up any new languages but get harder later. English transliteration is very far off and I use it sometime when I’m stuck and unable to read the Arabic but sometimes they way they are written and if I didn’t know how to read Arabic I would read that them differently. As a non Arabic speaker, I learned Quran when I was little and I can still read it slowly. Couple of benefits: 1. It’s a new language all together, When I want to memorize a surah I memorize it in Arabic so when it is being recited I feel connected as it is in the original form. 2. When someone passes away and I’m called to participate in Khatm e Quran I can actually read the Quran and a chapter. 3. I can read Quran in Arabic and do Dua for my deceased father. 4. Sometimes when I’m low or sad I just open Quran and read (not sure if it would be helpful in English transliteration). Something personal: my father rarely got upset with us but he always tried to teach us Quran; all my brothers sisters are fluent in reading , I’m just slow and he got really mad when I didn’t wake up to read Quran in the morning. So I see the emphasis why it was important for him as a father towards me or us (my brother sisters). Today I can connect 2+2
My 2 cents on this, as I've discussed this with my own parents on a number of occasions.
If Arabic is not your kids native language, then it's a waste of time to read it in Arabic. At least until they understand what the Quran says. They can learn to recite it in Arabic after. You should prioritize your kids to understand their Deen and not a language they won't understand or is not their daily spoken language.
I'm from the generation where my parents woke me up at the crack of the dawn and sent me to mosques to read Quran and if I made a mistake I was hit with pipes, sticks you name it. It wasn't my native language, and I didn't understand what I was reading, and I hated that I was being beaten for it on the daily. I know this is not the case nowadays, but the case for reading it in a language your kids won't understand still makes no sense.
How can you love something you don't understand, and when you grow older, you're told that you can read the translation now.
I love my parents, but I resent them for taking this approach and let me be physically abused for something I didn't understand. This was all before the age of 10. I have a hard time loving my religion and have to make 1000% effort and understand my religion while also maintaining worldly obligations, job, social, and familial duties. It gets more difficult as you get older.
One the biggest mistakes us Muslims make is that we believe that just because we are Muslim, we are saved.
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What a disastrous nightmare @ hit with pipes and sticks. I’m so sorry.
“BuT WhY Do ThEY HaTe Us?!?!”
I’m going to add my perspective as someone who grew up attending all types of Islamic classes growing up (and former Kumon tutor!). I don’t know your circumstances so I’ll list mine and maybe you can take whatever resonates with you.
I attended classes growing up purely to learn how to read Quran in Arabic. During the summers, I’d also attend Islamic school at the masjid to learn more about Islam, memorize Duas/surahs, and learn Hadith. Personally, Islamic school really turned me off from Islam bc the teachings were very black and white and I couldn’t relate those teachings back to my every day life. My Quran class just taught me how to read Quran and I still remember everything, I practice reading Arabic all the time, and I find a lot of peace reading Quran in Arabic. It also gave me the flexibility to learn more about Islam on my own. I ended up taking Arabic in college and knowing how to read ahead of time gave me a head start and I was able to learn more about the language (although I am far from fluent, I can recognize words/phrases). Long story short, your kids will be able to learn the translation later in life at any point but it will be really difficult to learn how to read Arabic past this age. You just need to push them to keep practicing reading Quran even after they learn and they wont forget. A combination of this + a good Islamic class will probably give them a really strong foundation for Islam.
Also with other activities like Kumon and extra homework.. I don’t know your kids but personally those things are a waste unless your child is undisciplined and isn’t getting good grades on their own. My parents also used to give me so much extra stuff they found online/from tutors. I never got any benefit from it. If your kids are naturally motivated to do well in school, let them explore other interests like sports or reading or forming a hobby. Extra Schoolwork won’t teach them anything helpful in the real world and all that matters is that they they do enough to get good grades. When it comes to college and jobs, they’ll stand out more if they have leadership skills and productive interests outside of school.
Try using the app called quranic! They have short lessons of teaching Arabic based on lessons in the Quran and it’s kid and adult friendly!
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/quranic-quran-arabic-learning/id1381145375
That is true, the Islamic school or program must be a good one, may be a good opportunity to learn with your children and bond, wish you the best inshAllah
Rising Star
Consider teaching in both Arabic and English, leave the transliteration part out.
Definitely consider teaching them in English alongside Arabic - blindly reading something that they can’t understand or decipher the meaning is not a good option.
I should add that we have finite time. As 2 working parents, we can only do 1-2 activities per week. So if Quran class is twice per week, that takes away a sport or time for like extra homework or Kumon. Like I’m SO limited on time and am struggling with what is most valuable
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I started learning how to read/write arabic at the age of four and it’s helped me tremendously after a long break of not using it, it still came easy when I got serious about studying the Quran. Always make dua for my parents for that foundation bc a lot of the sounds/letters stuck with me.