Hot take, Amazon is the big4 of FAANG. Toxic work culture long hours without the high pay to make up for it.

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I think the pay is pretty good, no?

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The hours at Amazon are still less than big4. Also they get paid very well?

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Yea… was doing 60-80 hrs and not being paid nearly enough while I was at big 4

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Idk if that’s a hot take. I used to work at Amazon and everyone basically says that internally.

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I left my big 4 job to go to AWS and they doubled my salary, so not sure you’re that accurate.

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This is the way

FAANG doesn’t exist anymore. It’s MAAMA : Meta, Alphabet, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple

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MAMAA is exactly what you’re going to be saying after working for them

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Good to know. I was considering a position at aws.

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My brother worked for Alexa and it’s significantly worse than aws. Aws evidently is one of the better places in amazon.

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Gcp would like to have a word

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Product.

Would still like to try it for a year or two…

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Building on what SC shared - pay comprises of 3 parts:
- base
- signing bonus (first two years of employment when vesting scheduling is low, paid monthly)
- RSUs

So when your RSUs are minimal you get more cash via the bonus. When you negotiate you should consider your annual comp so that you remain somewhat balanced for the 4 years

Not true. Not every team operates like that. It has 1.2M corporate employees. There are great teams, and there are shitty teams, like any other company.

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Lol you get paid plenty well if you have tech skills

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M3 - what’s your YOE ?

Considering how successful the company is, this is always disappointing to hear.

From my POV, you had the people that were the source of the toxic environment. Usually L6+ that were all about Amazon all the time. Work is a public service to them. You are helping the greater good at Amazon so why aren’t you putting in 80 hours each week, on call in the weekends, etc.

And then you had the people working for those people or adjacent that wanted lives that got burned out in that type of environment.

Not a hot take at all

I thought everyone knew that and because it the known culture, I’ve never considered applying there or accepting a call from the recruiters there

So apparently not all teams are like this. How do you know if your team is one of the good ones though? I honestly have no desire in applying there because of the horror stories I’ve heard.

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