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How bad do you have to be to get fired or put on PIP during your first two years in PA?

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As a staff 1, I think it’s more about attitude and being present. I think the dilemma lies in the fact that many staff think working until 7 means they’re busy so they’ll say they’re busy when people reach out to them for work, while most seniors would view 7 as a light day. I’m in tax and I haven’t heard of any tax staff getting put on PIP unless they had a really bad attitude and were MIA often. I have heard of more audit staff getting put on PIP. I just think audit is more cut throat at the lower levels

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I think it’s an office culture thing. Even the audit teams in my office work like that lol

It’s more common than you think It’s not great but I seen people leave on PIPs as A2s to have great careers in private industry The first sign to start looking for a job is being unassigned a lot (This means people don’t want you on your team)

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I knew someone who was an A2 that got put on a PIP. Personally, haven’t seen their work but they were one of the best people I’ve worked with. But the managers were complete assholes and put her on PIP. She definitely didn’t deserve to be put on a PIP.

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PIPs rarely have anything to do with actual, true performance

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A senior in my group did nothing the whole busy season, ignored all emails and messages, but still here

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This does remind me of one senior I worked with who left recently. Did barely the minimum and managed to secure a better job after. Ended up doing the work he was helping me with and I just didn’t bother with him.

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I have seen a few people put on PIP after a year in my group. It depends on the firm and group you work in.

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Agreed, have 2

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I have only met one during my career, and that person was the worst staff I have seen in my career, still, the time to get him fired took months.

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Probably not good especially at this time BUT it could be the team as well

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Can be political as well

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I had one staff in my group just never listened, he got at least two years before he was let go. I think he had a PIP but it was clear nobody would use him, we sure tried enough times. Have one now may go that way in this case no initiative, no communication. Trying to counsel but at some point you have to figure it out. New grads certainly get more leeway as they are learning so much about the professional world, higher up the quicker the hook on things like that.

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Seriously I want to get on pip so I have time to look for jobs

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Has anyone seen staff out on a pip for having low utilization?

Yeah that happens. There was a person in my office whose utilization was 20% lower than the next lowest person. They straight up fired him instead of a PIP.

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