How bad do you have to be to get placed on a PIP?

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Probably a mix of poor performance/not giving a shit/ppl on your team not liking you

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I was put on a PIP as a rising staff 2. There were weird politics on my account that I had difficulty navigating and on top of that my senior was pretty tough on me. Just got promoted to manager with a 5 rating though so the situation is redeemable.

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My manager, consistent 4-5 rated person with over 100% utilization was put on a PIP. It can be subjective if you have a jackass superior.

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If they're planning to get rid of you (regardless of good ratings or not) they often put you on a PIP plan so that they can avoid an unemployment benefit claim. If they document a performance issue for the termination, the claim doesn't impact their employer rating.
It sounds horrible and mischievous, but it's true.

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You should look for a job during your pip and get out before its over. Apply to other firms it typically easy to jump to another firm.

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@BDO1 - this group loves to speculate about PIPs being used to to fire people for no good reason. I'm not going to say that doesn't ever happen, but every PIP I have seen has been deserved. I have also found it can actually be difficult to get someone on a PIP.

The plan itself is a strong statement from the firm that says "here is this specific thing you are doing that we do not agree with, fix it or find other employment." I have seen people successfully work off a PIP but of course a big portion of the population is going to go else where once they hear that.

Having worked outside of public accounting, I can tell you the firm works extra hard to not fire people.

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Yep, I was disliked by ppl on my team.

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Yup ^

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I think PIPs are over at EY. All 2s in NY FSO Audit are being let go.

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Same in southwest audit @ey5

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I honestly think PIPS have very little to do with the employee and far more about seniors & management. For example at Crowe, there was competition between the RD group and Jon RD group (retail dealerships). Also someone left $1m off a 2015 tax return. I am not a CPA yet and they just wanted someone to scapegoat. CPA firms are like gangs. If you are not in with the right crowd you are out.

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If you are not performing up to the expectations of your level then pip

What is the expected level of a staff?

Management can be cruel. Outside of PIP plans, I had a colleague that was asked to sign a non-compete agreement over a year after she started. BDO stated that it was an oversight when she was hired. They let her go the next day after she signed the form.

BDO 1, your friend needs to take contract law. No consideration with the non compete means it isn't a binding contract.

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