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European living in the US. I’m really struggling to enjoy living here because it’s such an individualistic society. The levels of inequality & poverty I see are heartbreaking. The whole mask debacle really cemented the fact that I don’t want to bring children up in this type of society. No respect for others, and all me, me, me & my freedoms. Check yourself USA. I don’t know if you can change a culture in a country of this size without a seismic or catastrophic change such as border changes or war.

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Yes and I have seen multiple churches do so.

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I think Some element of mandatory public service. All of my friends parents and grandparents had at least one who was in the military. Americans on the coasts don’t interact with middle America don’t interact with the south and viceversa.

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I think that people discount how important national identity is, and to what extent seeing a place of value and belonging contributes to it (eg middle class - which was at leas the uniting factor for white people after ww2 - albeit just white people sadly :( )

Why do we need to be more “collective” and not maintain our culture of “rugged individualism”? Collective-based societies didn’t fair any better than the U.S. with COVID except Sweden which did not go into economic or societal lockdown. As we get further from the events we can see the exploitation of COVID for political gain. Not a single death nationwide from the flu, restrictions lifted as soon as Biden was sworn in, and so on. States like Texas, Florida, and other conservative states have faired the pandemic well and are recovering faster than blue states. We are not going to be a democratic socialist country, it is not in our nature.

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Also, I don’t think we need the worker protections of say, France, nor is anyone proposing them. However it’s painfully obvious that even while we want to retain some of the individualistic aspects of a free market system, our markets are heavily weighted towards perpetuating the success of the holders of concentrated economic assets. We actually don’t have a particularly free market anymore which is why we need these “socialist” measures you’re in accurately identifying to help correct for these externalities and market distortions Check out rajuratham and zingales. Seriously.

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