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How do I as a staff push back against supervisors wanting me to work overtime/weekends outside of busy season? We just had an awful busy season. I was the most utilized staff in my office. I don’t have it in me to work overtime until the next busy season. I’m at my breaking point.

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Are other staff also expected to work overtime? If so, I think you’re outta luck. Push back by finding another job.

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Ugghh. I feel you. That kind of crap is why I left Deloitte. The PPMD's expectations were insane. They believed that everyone needed to work 50+ hours year-round, and much more in busy season. But to also send all the work to USI, and be fully chargeable all the time. It was a no-win. I agree that you should just quietly not work weekends, and check out when you need to on evenings. If they push on it, let them know that you're completely fried. The better PPMDs know that this is when they need to back off. If yours doesn't... start updating LinkedIn and post your resume on Indeed.

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- talk to your PML and be blunt. A vague disclaimer is no one’s friend. Everyone always sugar coats - don’t. Tell your PML honestly how you feel about your schedule - draw a line with your team. Are they online? Hey, I’m a manager and my team has no issues signing off even when we’re busy because we’re not officially in busy season. Generally, that’s on me for not communicating to them clearly that “hey today we really need to get something to the client, so we might need to hang back later.” If you’re not getting a direct “I want you to work on Saturday” message, then pretend like everything is fine and sign off. It’s on your managers to communicate this, not on you to put pressure on yourself just because you’re getting work assigned to you. Work doesn’t all have to get done in one day. - I guess I’d have different advice if your team IS directly telling you to work certain hours. In that case, it depends on the team makeup. Are there enough people? Is there an impending deadline, or is this one of those ridiculous teams that works late to work late? You have multiple routes: bring up that you don’t have time to finish everything given to you on time and either need more time or need that work to be reassigned (do this with some humility and politeness); set a time expectation yourself (hey I’ve to do this, this, and this, so I won’t get to that till Wednesday) Amazingly, managers are human, and there’s actually not a lot we can do to twist your hand if you make the situation blunt. I can hope you’ll stay to work longer hours if I need you to, but I don’t feel good forcing you to do that outside of busy season. If you let it be unspoken, you make it easier for someone to exploit you. If you say out loud that...you’ve plans and you’re signing off, you’ll revisit tomorrow. Or you need to see family this weekend, you won’t be online. Or you will finish your work in x days. It makes it a lot harder for someone to play games with your time

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This is the only way with a culture like that.

I believe an efficient way would be to "great I'll start tomorrow morning" or "perfect I'll start on Monday, have a good weekend" That's it, let them force you, they won't.

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exactly.

Following :(

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If you were the most utilized you need to bring it up to your counselor/pml/ whatever Deloitte calls you manager (not the engagement manager) and tell them your thoughts about continuing to be the most utilized staff in the entire office. Sometimes EY1 is right though if pushing for change gets nowhere.

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Most utilized because you charged the most hours or because you worked more? Just curious. Not sure what you consider to be overtime either or if your peers are being asked the same. You can raise concern about workload, start with the manager not your performance manager tho, bad look to throw a supervisor under the bus before giving them a chance to fix.

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You have to stop being a yes man and place some boundaries

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You need to set your boundaries or they’ll walk all over you and blame you when you burn out. I would also suggest talking to your coach and explaining the context and what you’re trying to do to keep from burning out.

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Communicate your working hours and stick to them. YOU have to set boundaries, no one will set them for you.

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If ur tax dm me!

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Try to do a trade and say you can work x,y or,z dates but not a,b or c for personal reasons (whatever they may be). Speak to resourcing and see if anyone else is available to help. It's a sh*te position to be in but you have to look after yourself as well. Sometimes you have to say no. Or call in sick and recover that way. The world will not end.

How do you check how utilized you were compared to your peers?

For EY, you go to Mercury Home Page, click on 'My Business Reporting', then click on 'utilization reports'. They show a graph for the period comparing your own month over month utilization against the peer average.

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What service line ?

My midsize firm has openings for experienced associates and I have never heard of anyone working these kinds of hours, no matter the level. Dm me what you're niche is and what you're interested in gaining experience in; I'd be happy to check if we have any openings. You have big 4 on your resume now, so hopping to a midsize is unlikely to impact your ultimate exit opps :) (from discussions with other people and people who left big 4 for my team, this is the only realistic way to get out of this situation)

Your reward for being good

Talk to your CFL or “Circles” leader about the situation. Also, take a couple of personal days to give yourself a break.

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