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This is my first time working with a client using the COSO framework. Before elevating my inquiry to my seniors, I would like to confirm my understanding of how this exercise works.
Prior working papers are telling me that client should establish its compliance with the five components of the framework, correct? How rigid should I be in performing this?
To be fair, I was provided with a reading material but it’s a pretty hefty read.
Thanks for any responses!
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Simple. Have HR and project leadership address it in correct way. Keep your hands clean
"I sprout mung beans on a damp paper towel in my desk drawer. Very nutritious, but they smell like death."
You could have just let me know Karen
Sorry OP. The only time that I’ve had to deal with this was when I was in the military. Our approach would be...frowned upon in the corporate world.
Yeah I’m afraid to mention anything, because she is the type of girl that would go to HR if someone said anything to her about this
A girl on my project team smells so bad that you might as well be seeing green fumes coming off of her (like in the cartoons). It’s gotten to the point where I have to leave the conference room our project team has and go work somewhere else for the day because it is so bad. I obviously don’t want to hurt her feelings, but is legitimately unbearable. Others on the team have also noticed
Her direct lead or the EM should have a conversation with her. I’ve always liked the wording in this post when addressing:
https://www.askamanager.org/2013/04/how-to-talk-to-an-employee-about-body-odor.html
Ask your HR person how to address
Make it a general point for the whole team and say the client has mentioned it.
I’ve had to make a “general announcement” before, but it was regarding dress code (a woman on the team had experienced significant weight gain, but hadn’t updated her wardrobe and it was becoming inappropriate). I’d like to say she took a hint, but she didn’t. Good luck OP.
It’s part of my team room norms to have air fresheners in the room especially if no windows and leave the door open as much as possible
This actually happened to me. My very first direct report had terrible BO and very bad breath. I’m a girl, he was a he. :) I talked with my manager about it and he took the burden off of me and had a guy to guy chat with him about professional preparation. The direct report was often in wrinkly suits too. I don’t know exactly what was said, but I was thankful to my manager for having the discussion and I think my direct report was too. He cleaned up after that and it was a non-issue going forward. Is there someone close to this female team member or a direct supervisor who could talk with her?
OP/All - generic statements might not work because many times people with BO don’t realize they have BO (just imo). This will have to be specifically called out to this person. Good luck
Anyone know what the typical company policy is on this? If your team is noticing then the clients will notice too. My guess is mention to the manager and the manager makes a generic team announcement, but idk what HR considerations need to be made. Maybe HR complaint is the way to go? Awkward for the manager to have to deal with.
Do you have windows? If so, next time you walk in, immediately say "Oof the room's been a little smelly today, anyone mind if I open up the windows?" Or if you don't have windows, say that it smells and you're going to bring in some air freshener tomorrow. It's a tricky situation and just try to avoid pointing the finger at a specific person
UPDATE: walked through the doors of the office (probably 20-30 yards away from the conference room, and I could smell that horrible horrible sent of BO and disgusting perfume cover up. As I got closer, the smell got stronger....andddd SURE ENOUGH, it was our friend who had come in early this morning
Mark it as an issue on the weekly status slide and have SteerCo determine the mitigation plan.
That’s a tough one. At some point I think someone or group just has to bite the bullet and have an intervention. Dropping hints doesn’t work.
There is also the possibility, although remote, that it is secondary to a medical condition so you have to be cautious of that land mine.
Agree with SD1 on approach. Or have their HRBP do it. Need to be careful if it’s a medical thing