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How do people feel about continuing to send money for the war. I 100% support Ukraine but we are providing so much more than the entire EU and we have our own problems at home. I feel for Ukraine but how about using that $40b to fly baby formula here if they are getting stuck on ships. Or programs for the homeless or drug abuse. Why can’t we expect EU to match us and really contribute more given it’s their backyard. We can’t be the bank for all wars.

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I used to be a Ron Paul non-interventionist freak in college, and even I think we have a moral imperative here, and the world gets scarier the more we pull away.

The problem is how much we've wasted on nonsense wars like Iraq, but I'm glad that doesn't stop us from doing the right thing here.

I do wish we could put similar effort to protecting democracy at home.


This will probably be the last round. It is a lot of money but don’t forget what we are getting for it. A massive defeat for the Russians means a safer world. Russia hasn’t suffered a defeat like this since the 80s and even that wasn’t as bad.

China is also watching. They should know by now that the amount of aid we gave to Ukraine pales in comparison to what we would give Taiwan (an unofficial ally).

If Russia’s military collapses and can never threaten Europe again, if China is deterred from attacking Taiwan, an event which would cause a massive economic collapse for the world, then our aid to Ukraine is pretty worth it.

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You’re not allowed to ask these questions OP. You could give every homeless person in America $70k for what we just sent to Ukraine.


But that's soshulizm


Pretty sure its one party against providing support to the homeless.


Pretty sure it’s the other sending money all around and trying to forgive loans for people with degrees?


I hate it. But I'm fairly against sending money anywhere overseas that doesn't directly benefit us.


Yeah, fighting Russia kinda directly benefits the US


I feel great about it. Give them what they need.

While we are sending them more outright, other countries are sending more relative to their GDP.

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KPMG - wrong. You’re only off by $40 billion, but that’s not surprising.


Let it sink.


As mentioned, Russia is one of our noisier and more troublesome geopolitical enemies. This is a free bloody nose for us, where the EU has done a lot more than they normally do.

Also, fiscally, the US can engage in multiple initiatives. If we cannot do that, then we need to provide Congress better staffing support to assess and vet bills.


How about using some of the money from the Trump corporate tax cuts?


Things that Republicans who don't want to spend money for Ukraine on also don't want to spend money on: veterans, the IRS, the homeless, public transportation, public education, public health, alternative energy, climate change, strengthening democracy.


Not all republicans are against this. I fully support most of those it’s just about how it’s implement. Like homelessness, I’m against giving out needles and such but support finding ways to help them. Public education completely agree we need a full revamp yet you also have to be willing to push people and teach to challenge the brightest and still have to support the bottom performers but also have to be willing to accept that some will fail. We teach to the bottom denominator instead of challenge kids to strive for better so we get an education program that is behind so many countries.

None of these things are mutually exclusive

I don't know a single liberal who thinks these things are free. Certainly not any "typical" liberal.



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OP - what’s wrong with free needles? An addict is going to use either way. Would you prefer they spread HIV and other diseases in the process? Isn’t reducing the spread of HIV, hepatitis, etc good for society so it doesn’t become an issue our healthcare system has to deal with? So it doesn’t spread rampant in homeless / addict communities?


Baby formula is not “stuck on ships”. The problem is restrictions on foreign baby formula and Market Consolidation. Spending 40 bill on baby formula would just drive up the price even more because it’s a supply issue.

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