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I try to treat people as individuals with their own unique personalities and circumstances. I don’t relate to people as members of groups. I think the identity politics in this country are abjectly harmful. That said, if someone points out some systemic injustice, I’ll be the first to lend my voice to try to correct it.
I totally agree EY1. Thank you for sharing.
Other than using race to help identify someone I don't really think about it. The grouping people do seems weird to me. Prefer to treat people as individuals and with respect.
100% agree. I rarely think about it either.
I am half-white. My white family members are lucky enough that they do not need/have to consider race in their daily lives — they are simply people. My non-white family members (myself included) are forced to constantly think about race due to encounters/the way they are treated by others. This is a conversation I’ve had with both my parents many times
Thank you for sharing. I am a black male as well and I’ve experienced what you are talking about in public accounting
I try to ignore race when dealing with people, unless I know them well and comfortable enough to discuss some specific aspect of race in our society. Not going to engage a person that doesn't already know me on a potentially sensitive topic. I feel like a certain level of rapport is needed with an individual before openly engaging on certain topics due to how politicized everything is today.
I say I try to ignore race in the sense of what Dr. King said "... they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character." That truly aligns with my view.
Sometimes I refer to people by race or ethnicity if I can't remember their names - for example - what was the black woman's name from the client's FP&A team? Just as I would ask - what was the name of that really tall dude with the beard from our call this morning?
To me it doesn’t matter. Either does religion or culture..
I come from a family who has to run away from oppression who were hated for our accents and religion…. We know what it’s like to be blindly hated but we also abandoned all of our culture, forced away accents, and were never taught our homelands language all to blend in to our new home….
They are all meaningless. Someone’s character and decisions are the only indicator of anything about a person
I think that white people never really have to think about race (because of the way they look), unless they have a child that’s non-white looking.
I’m a white woman, but I grew up outside of the US in a former Soviet country where everyone looked the same. Everyone was white. I’ve seen some Asian people (we have a close border with Kazakhstan & Uzbekistan, and most of their residents look Asian) but I haven’t seen anyone else of another race until I was 20 years old and came to NY. Black and Latino people, specifically, are the groups that I never encountered before. I could see some of the racism that these groups deal with (and I’m sure there is so much that I don’t see) but I don’t have a good understanding of where exactly it’s coming from, since I didn’t grow up here. Somehow, all PoC are being discriminated against, but some groups more than others.
Honestly it makes me feel uncomfortable to talk about race, especially at work, since I have such limited experience with it and I’m always afraid of unintentionally offending someone with some random not-well-explained comment. I’ve had the best associate ever worked with be a black guy from Guyana, he was so humble, smart, and just awesome guy, I wish I could clone him and put him on all our engagements. But he definitely stood out even in our diverse group at first. Since then we’ve had more representation, specifically black men, but still socially people tend to stick with their own. Black kids eat lunch with black kids, Asians eat with Asians, Latinos, whites, etc.
Only when I transferred to another super small group of 10 people, I felt what it was like to be different and how it feels to be discriminated against. Out of 10 people, I was the only non-American born. The only one with an accent. The only one who didn’t go to the same 3 colleges/grew up in same 3 towns/lived in same areas. I could never imagine that I could be a minority as a white woman - among other white women - and feel so alone and it was miserable. They ended up pushing me out with poor reviews and made-up “complaints.” I’m in another group now, where I feel valued even though I’m also very different from the rest of the group. Having that experience personally gave me a tiny insight into how non-white people must feel most of their lives. It’s a huge mental toll that I could never imagine - or deal with - all because I look like a typical white American (until I open my mouth and then the accent comes out lol).
OP, after seeing how isolating and mentally draining it could be, I think that the firms should give more “informal” supports to underrepresented minorities. Asians are technically a minority, but not so in accounting where they are very well represented, along with Indians (not sure if it’s even accurate to separate Indians from Asians since Indians are Asian but I hope people get my point). Not as much Latino and Black candidates. So they need to have a “safe space” at the firm, need to feel valued and respected and appreciated, and feel that they can speak up and people will actually listen. I don’t know a quick way to make it happen, but it should be on the firms’ radar for diversity and inclusion purposes.