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The only way to deal with it is to get married or move on lol. Don't string her along

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Tagging MBB and Deloitte is the funniest thing about this post

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I was about to post exactly this. Whats the logic behind tagging MBB

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This sounds like a question for a couples therapist, not a consultant 😬

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Or “i will circle back with you on this” 😂

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The present value of 0 is still 0. You’ve had two years, you should know by now and if not, might be time to do some real soul searching as to what you actually want.

It’s not just your life you are impacting by postponing. Women also have real biological timelines that are very different from men (assuming you identify as male)

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Please refer to McKinsey’s Marriage Ultimatum MECE Decision Framework

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We can’t decide that for you buddy. If you’re not ready then that’s a sign of whether you see a future with her or not. Not everything has a framework

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The “factors” are things you should have been evaluating every day for the past two years. If based on your experiences with her, you have all the data you need and are confident to make a call that you can or cannot live with her for the rest of your life, marry her or don’t. If you don’t have enough data, at this point you should be able to articulate to yourself your specific concerns about a possible union and exactly what data points you need and how much more time you need to collect them to make a decision.

You could also ask her about why she is in a rush to get married and practice listening to her and addressing her concerns, since that’s basically what you’re going to be doing every day until you die if you marry her. 🤣

Tldr; do some introspection, talk to your gf, and then probably see a therapist.

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2 years is lots of time to decide. More than enough

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Deloitted to answer: if you are asking this question then move on.

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I see what you did there 😂 …. Tell me you work at Deloitte without telling me you work at Deloitte!

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MBBD? 🤨

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Marriage isn’t life changing…having kids is. Dating and living with someone vs married and living with someone isn’t all that different. Having kids with that person will change your life. That’s the real question is do you want kids with her.9

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It can be life changing financially speaking 💸
Also, I don't see the value of marriage if not creating a family ... So don't do it if not planning kids

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I'll get straight to the point regarding your question: "What factors to evaluate prior to getting married?"

1. Your reasons for getting married. What does marriage mean to you? What does it mean to her? What type of traits does a woman need to have so you consider her 'The One'? Does she have them? I'd suggest that you two have a conversation about that to try to understand each other's perspective. Listen with the goal to understand each other, before jumping to conclusions.

2. Your deal-breakers. What will you not be able to accept in a marriage, no matter what? What about her? Example of deal-breakers: wanting kids, religious beliefs, abuse of any kind, cheating, financial spending habits, extended family involvement in your relationship, etc. Have you two discussed these things? If so, to what extent do they align?

3. The strengh of your connection. How much do you know about each other's principles, values, dreams...and how many of them do you both share? How do you handle conflicts? Are you both able to effectively solve them? Mind you, conflicts are a given in any relationship/marriage, so you both need to make sure that you have the right strategies to effectively solve them...before making a lifetime commitment.

Although time spent together does play a role in building a strong connection, I'd argue that 2 years can be relative, depending on how much you both worked on your relationship during this time. I know couples who've been together for 5+ years and still haven't built a great connection and others who've gotten married after just 6 months. So it's quite relative.

These are the 3 main factors that I, personally, would consider. It's difficult to be more specific, since I don't know your circumstances. But hopefully, it'll give you a head start.

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Don’t sting her along. It’ll suck for her and if you’re apathetic that’s your answer

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The purpose of dating is to evaluate a potential candidate for marriage (if you’re dating with the right intentions). If you haven’t, after 2 years, seen what you need to see from your girlfriend, then she’s potentially not a good fit. What are you looking for? Do your values match? If so, then consider it!

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Im just wondering why did you tag Deloitte here with MBB….

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They’re clearly from Deloitte but want input from MBB folks 😂

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Sign up for the next season of the Ultimatum and find out for yourself!

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What exactly is the ultimatum she's posing here?

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Hard to give you any helpful feedback when we don't know your ages, lifestyle, financial state, etc.

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If your communication has devolved to ultimatums, then neither of you should want to marry the other.

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2 years and you’re being pressured into marriage?
Run away, AND FAST!

If you haven't learned enough about someone in 2 years, a lifetime wouldn't be enough either, and that's because you weren't paying attention, you were just wasting time

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