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How do you guys feel about diversity at your firm?

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For EY diversity means promoting white women to partners. Don’t get me wrong that’s awesome , some progress then having the same white guys show up again and again as partners. And I have nothing against them too! Some incredible white guys as partners who are fierce leaders and who I owe a lot of my learnings at EY - I just have so much respect for them. But for the sake of diversity promoting women left right and center when people sit and wonder - this is the last person I had thought would make a partner. Diversity is about meritorious promotions despite a persons race , color, past school experience , culture , religion etc. EY is also about ooooohhh look we are so diverse. We have a black community thing, we have a Asian community thing. Look look we are promoting white women in all sorts of leadership positions. This token like diversity is even more insulting. Promote people and get people in your firm because of their merit, nothing else

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P7, everyone’s point is valid because everyone has a different life experience. I asked the question because of your point that the “thought to tally ppl never occurred to you”. I don’t think that most ppl are walking around counting, but if you have ever been in the minority, you usually notice. An example is when you are in the majority and you pick somewhere for happy hour, you likely don’t have to think about the composition of the ppl there. And if one of your team members was say the only black person there, you may not have noticed. Back in the day I used to tell my team about this club that had happy hour with free drinks and free food and they all wanted to go. The club was majority black and I felt uncomfortable that they would be in the minority. I know it’s my own bias because maybe they’d love it, but ppl that have never been in the minority usually don’t pay attention or notice these things

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Varies a lot by level Partnership still white af Significant gains for women past 5-10 years Fewer East Asian partners than partners of any other race; blacks and Latinos not far off We have a shit ton of work to do- BCG is a place of immense privilege in ways you can’t imagine... and probably isn’t doing enough to make things better

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People who feel the need to bring up how a spot in leadership must be earned when talking about diversity are telling on themselves. As if no white male has ever been promoted into leadership without fully deserving it...gross.

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Diversity = white women in Deloitte HC.....but that is progress. Just wish there was a “brown” partner to look up to that I’d feel comfortable really getting deep with, but I guess I’ll just have to blaze that trail and be that guy for someone in a decade or so.

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Nice buzz word but the company doesn’t care

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Accenture is hyper-focused on white diversity. Let's be honest. It's definitely pushed down our throats at every turn. Are you a white female? YAY! Are you a gay white male? YAY! We are SO lacking in Hispanics and African Americans in leadership.

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It’s also crazy that so many of you think minorities are handed leadership roles as if POC don’t have to be 3 times as good to get half as much. As if trump isn’t the president lol. The reality is, white People in consulting are handed all kinds of things they don’t earn by merit.

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Lots of focus on gender diversity with little to no discussion of racial. EY1 and others like him perpetuate the lie that only caucasians can get their jobs on merit.

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Happy for it, though it is clear the company pushes minorities into roles for the sake of diversity rather than on merit. At the end of the day you reap what you sow whilst I also believe leadership should be able to do what they think is best

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I would say look beyond skin color. My college roommate was asian, and I am white. We had more in common because each of our families had small businesses that we had to work in since we were 6.

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My entire recruiting experience was extremely diverse and awesome. Then I got to the holiday party... and realized just how many white dudes there are at this company. (The answer: so many. So. Many.)

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Diversity = white women. Very few black people in positions of Manager. Literally 2-3 black VPs and they are all women. Side note - when you assume POC are in leadership positions because of their race, you’re participating in racism. It’s ironic because so many of the white leadership I meet are abysmally average, at best.

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The big diversity complaint I kind of have is, diversity of background. Like all Ivy League and private is good, yes (hypothetically). But a good mix of GOOD state schools (mich, uva, wisc, etc) is better imo too.

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I think you’ll get smart ethnically diverse people if you just expand out schools. The state schools have more diversity just because first gen college students that are smart as hell go to their state uni. Shout out to Reggie Van Lee, he’s a legend in the Consulting game that I’m sure young black dudes looked up to

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I get the whole diversity initiative, but we must not forget that a spot must be earned with intellect and hard work. A black or Indian partner for the sake of just being a person of color is ridiculous. This is capitalism after all - competitive advantage and revenue first.

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Deloitte is extremely diverse. Both at the leadership and staff level. I think the firm is good on diversity

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K5, What people don’t always believe is it comes down to sponsorship (which is often lacking for women and minorities). Take 2 candidates up for promotion to manager. A gets promoted and B doesn’t. The reason given for B is that they aren’t managing anyone. Sounds totally fair and unbiased right. Well guess what, 6 months earlier both A and B were reviewed during consensus and neither were managing anyone. But when A was presented the people in the room said, let’s make sure we give this person some ppl to manage. Who is going to make that happen? A had sponsors looking out for him/her and was given the OPPORTUNITY. B was not. It’s not about promoting or hiring one person over another to achieve diversity. It’s making sure people have equal OPPORTUNITIES

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I believe Diversity is an old old wooden ship.

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Y’all also need to stop conflating gender and race. Having a bunch of white women in leadership is not diversity.

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PwC is all white and Indian

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