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For future responses, I’d make it clear that it is illegal in your state to ask the current wage, directly. And once again repeat the salary range you are seeking followed by, “ if this is something that is in the budget, I would be happy to continue the screening process..” I agree with the responses above, red flag for me as well to even work with the 3rd party recruiter.
Definitely will!! It was my first time dealing with this so I was very caughtof guard.
Recruiters in some states aren’t allowed to ask for base salary, but they can ask about other forms of comp, such as bonus and equity. They may be trying to understand your total comp to make you whole, i.e., if you are leaving RSUs or other things on the table. May not be in this case if s/he was rude about it.
Yeah, that sounds like a red flag to me. Was it a recruiter who works at the company you're interviewing for, or is a third party? It sounds like it may be the latter. In that case, I wouldn't hold it against the company, since the recruiter is an outsider who doesn't technically represent the values/culture.
I once had a third party recruiter say the client wanted to know when I graduated from high school because they thought I was over qualified
Providing a range is enough. I live in a state where it is legal to ask, but I never do nor do I ask for a range. Salary isn't even something that a recruiter decides. That is a big red flag. I'm sorry that happened to you.
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I always find the “we ask your expectations to not waste anyone’s time” response disingenuous. The best way to be equitable and not waste time by interviewing people who are out of range is by publishing/sharing the budget with candidates. Putting it on the candidate to share THEIR range does tell you if they’re in range, but if also puts them in the impossible position of trying not to price themselves out of a role but also not leave money on the table. If a company just publishes the salary then they already know every applicant is in range. Really, asking the candidate instead of publishing the budget is a way for companies to pay less when possible.
My guess is the recruiter is an idiot and the company will never see your info because the recruiter didn’t like your response. I’d reach out to let them know how they’re being represented (respectfully) and that you are very interested in moving forward. Couldn’t hurt—especially since you’re interviewing for an HR position. If they don’t respond with gratitude for the heads up, you know you dodged a bullet!
She said you'll be in the 80-85k range based on that. She gave a rude tone once she repeated her question as if she needs that information asap.
This completely turned me off and i don't want to even consider being interviewed.
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I would have asked her where she's calling from, country/state and if she responded with confusion than would have mentioned that it illegal to ask this.
Illegal question in many states - started in MA as a way to even the wage gap. Here in NY it’s $20k per violation penalty if reported.
Put your foot down and say it’s illegal to ask that in your state. If they repeat the question just repeat yourself too! As an HR professional it’s your job to know the rules!
Share only what you are looking for. What you are currently making should have nothing to do with the conversation.
As a recruiter, I know this is an area that some people (specifically the older generation) do not understand. I have to consistently correct hiring managers and tell them this is not how we make that decision.
Yeah this is illegal here in NY. I’m surprised that question was repeated. I’m 4 months in as an associate at my firm and I always ask “what’s your target?” Never ask what they’re making
That’s insane, the nerve of some people
I would either apply to the company directly without the recruiter or close Application, personally.
Was the interview recorded? I believe that’s $200,000 law suit right there .
I wish!! Haha
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Yikes, whether it’s an internal or external recruiter they really shouldn’t be asking it at all. Not to mention it’s kind of irrelevant. I think you handled it the right way- hopefully the company they are representing doesn’t behave the same way. If you are successful you should 100% let the company know the external recruiter they are using isn’t great.
That's a no!
Tell her it is illegal, if she didn’t know she needs to know
I always ask the recruiter how much is the position budgeted for that way I don’t low ball myself. Never throw out a number until you know what the position range is from the recruiter.
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That's sounds like red flags to me. Anyone in recruiting should know it's illegal to ask for direct compensation.
Why is a red flag? Why salary should be a “secret”?
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