How do you make sure you find an industry job that comes with the raise you want (within reason) without having to work more than 45 hours a week? One of my clients emails me at 10pm somewhat regularly. Another never leaves/logs off before 9pm for 5 weeks between quarter end and release of the 10-Q. I’d rather stay at B4 with our 6 weeks of time off per year (PTO + summer and winter breaks) rather than go to an industry job with regular long hours and half the PTO. Thoughts?

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The client that emails at 10pm is most likely not working until 10pm. They're probably just sending that quick email by their own choice. Or maybe they are working those long hours but no one else they work with is grinding away at that hour. Or maybe they start working at 2pm because of personal stuff. I wouldn't assume they're doing greater than 45 hours.

A lot of long hours (outside of public accounting) are self-imposed. Go into your next job with boundaries (work 8 hours, leave at the end of the day without fanfare, do not take your computer with you, do not put your work email on your phone) and things will be fine.

Ask about it in the interview process.

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Maybe they'd hire the workaholic, but maybe not. You want to work with other people who have a healthy relationship with work. I'd go with "if it came down to it, I would put in hours in excess of a normal work week, but I expect that to be a rare exception rather than the rule. I want to work for an employer that is fully staffed not understaffed." But you don't start the conversation with that. You start selling them on you, asking what they need and demonstrating how you can fulfill their needs with current skills or skills you can obtain quickly. Then once they like you and you like them you get down to specifics about how the corporate culture is including the conversation above (perhaps more abbreviated)

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You are not going to find a job that pays great money, has upward mobility and works 45 hours a week. Sorry to break it to you.

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You aren’t gonna find a job making $120k for 45 hours a week. At 45 hours a week, $80-90k could happen if you are really talented.

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It’s hit or miss, gotta do a lot of diligence on the role and company before accepting.

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Go for a private company? Regulatory requirements is higher at a publicly listed company so more accounting documentation requirement and more working hours.

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I have never been in industry but the friends that I have that are industry and still high performing work as much or more than they did in public.

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Exactly. As long as people around you are willing to work harder, you will never get ahead cruising.

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Why do you care if they email you at 10? Reply in the morning.

No one in industry that I know works at 10. Lol

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This person is probably working a 45 hour week on internal responsibilities and another 10-20 hours working on your requests. The day job doesn’t go away and the requests don’t magically assemble themselves.

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