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How do you respond to comments like “we just hire the best person of the job, regardless of race or gender”?

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Great question. Statements like that dismiss the value diversity brings to the table. You could ask the person to define “best” and delve deeper into what their understanding of the term means. You may uncover biases the person doesn’t even realize they have.

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Isn’t that how it should be? I don’t understand the question

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Also, if you’re not targeting diverse candidates, that’s fine, but get with the time and accept that it’s a bad look and this whole “oh well I only got one woman to reach out to me” isn’t going to look good compared to your peers at other firms who are actively trying to speak to diverse candidates and get them to apply.

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Ask them what the recruiting pipeline looks like at the top of the funnel. If you interview 90% white guys and the best candidate is from that pool, is it at all surprising?

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If they said that, I wouldn’t believe it. Too defensive.

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