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Well said Microsoft 1. If he deserves it, you have the budget and the interview feedback is upto the mark, give him the desired amount.
Ideally speaking, I don't think that asking for offer letter is even ethical.
Whenever an offer is rolled out, it is very clearly written, that it shouldn't be shared and it is confidential.
How would you feel if you come to know that the offer you rolled out, was shared to some other company?
You're in such a forum to maintain a decorum. This is not a rotted backdoor fb confession page. You've come to streets of online forum and have to face the responses no matter what
No mechanism to verify, it is just required by HRs to get approval from management because everyone is answerable like if someone asks why you are offering this amount to a candidate, then you have a simple answer that the candidate is already having an offer of so and so rather then telling that candidate is really exceptional and explain all those on behalf of candidate.
So, go ahead make a fake offer and share it. If the company offering you would have budget, they will counter else not.
All the best ! ;)
Chief
Yes. You are right. That's what I think so too... But curious about this glaring gap...
Why you need to validate his offer letter from other companies? If you or your company feels he deserves the amount of salary he is asking for, give him. Otherwise, don't give.
Chief
I understand that.. i am not asking for philosophical musings though...
Wanted to know whats the process involved... How these offers are checked... If anyone knows....
Company can't verify a offer letter. Legally HR can't even ask you for the offer letter or Salary slip. Its just you're at their mercy and you have to provide. You will never find an HR asking for these details from you on mail. Always phone call.
Chief
Agreed. They are asking in mail these days...
You can ask him to share the offer letter for validation.
Generally HR teams are a closely knit community. You can ask ask your HR to verify from their HR. Most of them are matured and repsond looking at the best interest of candidate in mind before joining
If the guy has edited and will only share a screenshot, then there is no way to find out. But can a company asks for the entire offer letter (along with mail proof, which the guy cannot fake) after the guy has joined, saying its a part of verification.
Haha, its not me, its just that I did a little bit of research on this due to one of my close friends thought of doing this. But finally he never gathered courage to do it... Anyways that extra CTC you can always gain from your next jump.
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Nono he has to share offer letter .... if he shows the letter, then only its valid else not
The BGV in TCS is mostly document check done by hr support teams in TCS, how I know? I closely know a person who works and does that. Also as a unit head you can benchmark the competition salary with medians available in Glassdoor or any other site. Or Ask your HRBP to get the median info of market and do that.
Really, you want to verify the credibility of a candidate but you don't want opinions of it being ethical or not, this discussion being on a platform like fishbowl which is designed to stay anonymous, immaterial of the letter being an NDA between another company and him? Let's not generalize this as philosophical musings or whatever, this is exactly what is wrong with the hiring practices in our country.
Couldn't agree more. This is seeking unprofessional advice from a professional forum. Pls refrain such to keep this clean. Elsr this would turn out to be another quora disaster
There is no way you can validate this. If you want the candidate then go with what he is asking
Don't hire the candidate if you can't trust or afford. Worth and budget are the key things. There are multitude of startups and product companies that can offer bright candidates
True that you can never. Hence the aforesaid, it works only with skill vs demand. No other choice you're running a business nothing more. Nothing less. He comes with a business resource for you/org. Am sorry if you find that physiological, philosophical what not. Wanted to js stay professional here in the forum. You can roughly gauge based on the designation in Glassdoor that's all you could
Usually offer letter are shared as sighned pdf documents which cant be edited
No it won't. You hit 'save as' in the pdf and save in diff doc name it won't even have signature trail. You have tons of online portals for free to edit. Voila
Asking for a confidential offer letter is unethical and illegal, and why would you not want to pay someone handsomely as per the budget. Sorry to see this kind of question.
I have shared my offered salary breakup to other company and I have taken the screenshot of the salary breakup that contains my name and designation also along with the signature validation header that generally pops up at the top of the adobe reader and I guess if that header is present it won't allow to change or edit the pdf contents.
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You can easily edit the document using various tools