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How hard is it to get a tier 4 or tier 5 in Career round table at big 4?

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You gotta be really Garbo to get tier 5

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In my first year I got a tier 5 in every metric on multiple clients and didn’t have a PIP or fired. I am the one who lived!!

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Ive been in CRTs for 10 years and have never seen a real 5. It just goes to someone who was already let go to meet the distribution. All 4’s are PIPs and two 4’s in a row you’re gone

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How about 4s?

Like in EY /Deloitte or pdubs/kpmg

5% or less for the peer group across the nation get top ranking (5). 10% get a 4.

Oh I meant the worst performing tiers haha

Tier 5 I think is usually in a PIP (performance improvement plan)

It depends on how much you RL and managers love/hate you. I had a first year on my team get a tier 4 (and subsequently a PIP) because they couldn't keep up with the workload. We were short staffed and all of us were trying to keep our heads above water, and I don't know why this person was singled out and not the rest of us. They were a good associate otherwise. But on another team there was a first year who showed up late and left early during busy season, produced garbage work, etc. and got a tier 3 because her managers were cool. So it all depends!

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It’s not normal. If you land there, find someone you trust to get honest feedback. I’ve seen many who got honest feedback, acted on it and are so very successful today.

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