How is it perceived to indulge in amr bil ma’aroof wa nahiyy anil munkar with colleagues but after work, eg a teetotaler is going to a bar because of peer pressure and you could encourage them not to?

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A1 are you the same dude fussing over about the riba free home loan question? if you are, you need to get a life.

OP asked a simple question, and this group is a safe space for Muslims to ask questions and seek advice while being consultants. Muslims like humans come in every shade, from ultra religious to non-praticising. If the question does not pertain to you STFU and mind your own business.

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You don’t have to do anything you are not comfortable with or don’t want to. Others should/will understand

I drink occasionally but still don’t go to some company happy hours because I prefer to draw a line between work and personal life.

That being said, I doubt that simply going to a bar and being exposed to alcohol is an earth shattering issue. You can order food and soft drinks at pretty much any bar.

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It depends on your level of emaan. The worst thing you can do to yourself (figuratively speaking) is justify sin.

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Just trying to understand how people perceive it. At times people just need encouragement while others see it as intrusion.

Can you rephrase? So ur wondering if u should stop someone from going to happy hour? What’s a “teetolater”?

It’s someone who doesn’t drink alcohol

I think before jumping to give someone advice about whether or not they should go to a bar, I would probably try and understand the person’s belief. If someone doesn’t practice Islam in his/her life then it makes no sense talking to them about going to a bar. It’s all about the basics.. if a muslims Iman is strong then their Iman will stop them from doing certain things. Maybe you need to help them bring their Iman up first..

Eh I guess so but I can see how to them reminding in this scenario can come off a little judgy or holier than thou, maybe instead invite them to Islamic events or halal hangouts that you and your friends have. If he or she is easily peer pressured as u say and u genuinely are concerned about their Islamic well being that shouldn’t be too hard right?

You’re obviously very insecure about yourself. You can go to a bar and not drink, order a coke and chips and salsa.

You’re not going to hell because you went to a bar.

OP is insecure about his faith. Why else would this question be asked?

I hope OP you do lecture someone about this and then just embarrass yourself further.

Stop. Providing. Unsolicited. Advice.

Especially for something as inane as this. Sure, if someone was drinking, I guess I’d understand the intention to offer advice.

But merely going to a bar?

OP good on for asking the question. I would say think of framing this conversation as you would frame a problem to a client. You dont tell the client straight up that their organization is a shit show or their strategy is pathetic but you frame it in a way that they realize it without you saying it.

Also, I dont think going to a bar should an issue since it can provide the person with a networking opportunity with the team in a casual environment. I am interested to learn your views?

You're supposed to give advice to people who will be receptive to it, meaning y'all have a relationship, not randos. That's the Sunnah.

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