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8/13 heads = 61.5% of the population, similar to the white demographic in the United States. Historically white men have had privileged access to the top, but now the white men on the bottom of the pyramid are competing with everyone else in a world where many top companies and leaders are literally incentivized to promote minorities and provide them with additional resources and support groups for success. Watch what happens over the next twenty years.

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SM1 I think SC2 just alluded to this—while there may be intelligence correlated with SAT scores and increased performance down down the road, you are not factoring in how much of that sample comes from a family that can afford extra tutoring/prep courses, comes from a situation where family life is stable, not obligated to help out/take care of a family member, etc. all in order to get high SAT scores.

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Google, PepsiCo, Microsoft, Mastercard, Albertsons ... all have Indian CEOs. Some of the most powerful companies in the world.
Plenty more.
I worked in a few american F-100 and seens plenty of Indians, men and women, from directors to C-suite (good people).
Not sure what all the comments talking about discrimination against South East Asians are about...

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I'm assuming you havent worked enough around the world since you are a SA 🤷🏽‍♂️ to understand why the numbers are important, in fact when I talk about diversity I prefer to talk about gender because biologically is more of a 50/50 problem, where, sadly, males are overrepresented, particularly cis-male.

We can't be fully be diverse ethnicity wise, we are looking at the US, and the truth is that most of it is white. you want more representation? we need more population of that ethnicity... is simple, there are not sufficient competent candidates to improve it, and if there were, we would have the opposite diversity problem 🤷🏽‍♂️, there are deeper things affecting it, that as you say will take decades to balance out, like inequality in terms of education, which still Asians in general have the highest education rates, when compared to bigger minorities in the states like black and Latin-Americans.

I think you haven't travelled around the world enough to understand diversity... Think of it in another country perspective... like China, where no CEO is black... is it a diversity problem...? well not really, the real diversity problem there is gender. Or go to Kenya or Nigeria, are there any Asian c-suites... not really, is it a diversity problem...? no.

You seem to be attributing your failures to inequality. I have always been part of a minority where-ever I go, therefore I don't share the childish wish of feeling represented by a F100 hero to have a role model, I dont look at race ethnicity or gender... I look at actions and merit, and that drives me forward.

Now that you know it, please consolidate the list yourself cause I'm further up than you in the corporate world to do an Analyst job. And then we discuss your findings.

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Let’s make everything into a race thing, that sounds productive

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D1 that insinuates that minorities aren’t qualified for the jobs they get. That sentiment is why minorities have perpetual imposter syndrome. Do you assume every minorities in competitive position is a charity case?

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Asian Careers Matter too 😔. We'll continue to support other minorities but ignored in the overall conversations.

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We are talking about Asian Americans who have to work with the diversity of America and American professional culture. Bringing in international examples isn’t relevant. I for one wouldn’t want to work under Jack Ma’s 996 Alibaba culture. Do I know if an Asian American try to drag a team thru that pointing to Jack Ma’s inspiration, yes. It did not go well.

Yes, I focus on tech not only because that is what my background is but that is where Asians are most stacked in terms of employee base. There is no other sector whereby they are well positioned to climb to senior ranks, but disproportionately aren’t. I am not saying that Asians don’t incur some level systematically prejudice in tech. However, the overarching issue I have seen is a community that ignores their privilege and likes to blame prejudice instead of looking inward. When I missed early promotion, my Asian colleagues’ natural reaction was to blame prejudice.

Yes, I realize there are lots of Asians in middle management, but the core question is what keeps them from upper management. Generally speaking, you can be okay and reach middle management and stay there. You have to excel to make upper management. People skills in empathy, humbleness, and relationship management is what I have seen to be the key difference maker to get there.

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Probably true - but things like this just take some time

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I think the point is we can’t promote someone to CEO who has no experience just to hit a diversity quota (j/k- we totally did that)

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So, as usual, East Asians are either “white” or left out of the conversation?

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Totally agree with you OP—even though Asians are recorded to do well academically and professionally as an aggregate, there definitely is still a “bamboo ceiling” as there are not many Asian people in corporate America or that of the Western world holding leadership/executive roles. This I feel doesn’t get talked about enough because as an aggregate in a professional/corporate context, Asian people are deemed to be well represented or do well enough.

Some research have claimed that the bamboo ceiling exists due to biases and stereotypes that hold back Asians from progressing to higher levels of leadership. Assumptions that Asians are too introverted, submissive and not assertive enough or charismatic, etc. essentially lacking normative “leadership” qualities—and you can guess the collective that has established those quality “standards.”

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Why should every level be <25% white male? If you don't like it start your own firm? If white males are so awful surely your woke diversity firms will triump

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I think if you actually talked to women in leadership they would tell you that there is still issues at the top. No one is saying hire under qualified people. Those kind of assumptions are unhelpful. There are some really good books written by women in leadership about their experiences and what the issues are if you’re actually interested in learning about what the issues are and how they can be fixed. It’s not just about oh it takes time. Lots of women leave leadership positions because they still face sexism and discrimination. Not to mention the higher up you go the more of a “boys club” it becomes.

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The way that this wasn’t even a hot take yet the boomers are taking it as discourse 😭😭

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Yeah this is pretty accurate lol

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Who’s Accenture’s CEO?

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There is disproportion in leadership positions when comparing general population race proportion to C Suite roles, but mathematically makes sense why there are more white leaders in this profession. Cant completely ignore the data in this one

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Thanks for sharing. I had no idea

“It takes time”
“Diversity of background”
All sound like a lot of excuses for not promoting equity in the work place. Let’s get more than one black partner per practice, then we can start have conversations about a meritocracy.

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How is it that all these white men then came to power? How can you look at an org chart like in the OP and not see an issue?

I think there’s an evident power imbalance and you should know better than to think that race doesn’t matter.

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No lies detected

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Umm not accurate. Your forgot the blond mails up at the top blonde males up at the top 🙍‍♂️🙍🏼‍♂️

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Hey some Indian people can be mistaken for Caucasian. So this isn’t accurate.

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Sounds about white

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Maybe, but it would have looked even worse ten years ago. We are making progress, but recognize not all the way there yet

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Agree. Still, I feel I will leave my successors in a better place and that makes me feel good. While some of those face emojis may be on bottom of pyramid now, they are our future.

That’s not true some of the top level guys are blonde too

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😂😂😂😂

This is actually my team lmaoo

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