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Was in industry for 7 years (salary grew by 65%), then went into consulting for 3 years (salary grew an additional 65%). Then left for a startup (extra 15%). So for a career switcher like myself, used consulting mostly as a booster. If I stayed, I’d be like 5ish years behind the standard consulting progression. Which wouldn’t be a big deal because comp was fine, but level of responsibility was lagging too far behind (pretty sure most industry hires experience this).
I think you need to figure out what drives you and what you hoping to get outta your career first, then you work towards that. It's not about years of service to stay or level. Truth is things change all the time. You can not be interested in PPMD now but you might. Alot of ppl don't stay because they dreamt of it maybe it just happened. Sometimes you could be on an amazing job with amazing people and that changes thing. Sometimes you meet the worst toxic ppl which makes you question... then reality is you can always go interview and test the market and then see what you can get and assess against your criteria and then just make a decision. No need to overthink it. Just go one step at a time. In consulting, you can learn alot of things not just from project delivery... you can always make it interesting if you want to. Sometimes ppl leave and they also realize industry is not as great too as they thought. It all depends on you and the situation. Just sharing my two cents
I was at D. Id say 4-5 years max. They say you’ll get new clients and new projects, but it’s all the same shit 😂
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Even if you don’t have ppmd goals, a higher title will position you for better exit opportunities.
Kpmg2, SM1 might be Amazon?
What's a ppmd?
Lmao D5 describes them so well
Pushing 7 years.. I’d say I stayed 1-2 years too long. 5 is the right time of you don’t want to make Md or partner.
Yup! I’m will to step back too if needed. Look forward to my exit soon for just an overall better quality of life
What are the typical exit opportunity titles if leaving consulting as a manager? These industry titles don't have any consistency hard to tell associated YoE
See I don't think I can take it after I am 40. To be honest, I don't care for making MD. Currently I am a manager, but even SM seems daunting. Working on starting my own business, so let's see how that goes in a couple of years.
Gotcha, A1. That makes sense. It’s definitely easier to do something that you’re interested in
Gain some skills and move on. 4-5 years max. It gets old.
EY 4 tbh it really depends on what industry/field you are interested in. I know that sounds vague but if you plan to leave consulting for good, then make the most of experience at EY while you can and make sure you have enough transferable skills (ex. some technical) and industry knowledge.
Think it very much depends on the person and market. 2-3 years ago when I was at the 5 year mark I had only companies in my small city to look to who mostly couldn’t afford me. Now post covid I’m getting interviews with Apple, Google and other consulting firms where the pay is much higher. Glad I waited.
E4 I’m in the people strategy space. Offer at a boutique for 80% comp bump and Apple/Google for 40% comp bump
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Depends. If the work is “easy” and enjoyable enough for you then stay until it is no longer rewarding/challenging. If the work is taking a toll on your sanity then leave when you can. I started as an associate and stayed through D.
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Not sure I understand. What do you mean?
min 5 and max 10
Tbh I get bored easy and have social anxiety so the idea of working with the same people on the same thing for too long sounds like it sucks and I’d rather be a consultant for my whole career, regardless of I’d I make a MD/Partner level or not
If you become an M can you stay there a while? I have no desire to be SM. I imagine I'll have to exit after a couple years of M
Experienced m or new sm is great time to go.
As soon as you find a VP job description you fit based on work experience and credentials.
Look at the people who’ve gone on to do truly great things from consulting. 3 is the absolute max; 2 is the median.
If not going for PPMD, 3 years max or you'll be horribly behind financially.
People just leave, lol. Consultants have the false sense of reality regarding how non-consultants view then. If you arent at MBB, you wont really get any respect anyway. If you arent trying to be a partner, no need to stay in consulting past being a manager. And 2 to 3 years is enough time. Get in and out.
This is so true. I’m a career consultant (15+ years) and am trapped now. Haven’t been able to find a suitable exist (path is so narrow) and also I’m kinda golden handcuffed. Should have left at M level.