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How many of you have seen this email or received it? Nice addition to unlimited vaca policy. Also to the folks who haven’t visited their family since COVID

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Trick based on how unlimited time off works at GT: book early. You don't have to worry about approval for 9 or fewer days off when you are unstaffed, or when you try to take under 9 days off during a time you are not currently scheduled to be staffed. So, book up a ton of days off early, so they're already approved and in the system before your next project. It is easier to cancel a few days off than get a few days off approved.

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The switch to “unlimited” vacation was a bone headed idea to begin with. On my engagements, I encourage all team members to take time off as needed but do it in consultation with their team mates, unless it’s a family emergency. We do have to watch out for each other professionally and personally. This past year has been an absolute brute and we’ve all struggled mightily. This new vacation policy has created unrealistic expectations for EYers .. not sure what the leaders were thinking. It also now makes the EPs look like the bad guys. And then a note like this comes out.

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Lol. So they don’t have to pay out vacation now. Nice

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Amazon 1, that’s not a small change, “other than”. Wouldn’t necessarily gloss over that as a minor detail.

Companies with unlimited PTO induce employees to not take vacations. It is a cost saving decision that increases burnout, particularly of junior staff. I wonder what will be the impact at attrition 12-24 months from now. Recruiting/retaining costs will likely increase. It is possible that the long term costs outweigh the short term gains. Endgame strategies at play or just plain guessing in the dark...

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Thanks, EY3. I actually had a chat with my TC about the policy earlier today. They’re great and actually said the same thing about remembering we are entitled to paid time off, and shouldn’t need to justify it. I’m working on changing my hang ups around it.

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My fav part of that email was towards the bottom - they recommend that if you need time off, try taking a tech-free lunch!

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They create their own ways to officially micromanage employees 😂😂 May be let’s all take alternate days off for the rest of the year. The policy is for consecutive days 🥱

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Adding layers of approval is a nice addition?

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You don’t think so? Who doesn’t like approvals 😂

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“Unlimited” vacation but please don’t take that much vacation. But we won’t tell you how much is too much, so we will keep it ambiguous so that you take less time than you want.

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Also lose an incentive for tenure

Sounds like you should take a lot of single days off whenever you decide to

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Practice Leader approval to take more than 10 days? No TY, I will keep my limited PTO that I own :).

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No one is that critical. They will just roll you off the project and replace if you insist on taking an extended vacation during their time of need.

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That's how our flexible PTO policy works as well.

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Bonus: an extra database into which we have to enter things.

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Honestly don't know about Practice Leader but surely your engagement leader

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It’s strange people are complaining about this now. The approval process was announced when they first announced the vaca policy last year. This recent email is a mere reminder.

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Agreed, we did complain then and look what is got us. Another email 🤣

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Ha! Ha. What I wouldn’t give to be able to take time off. I haven’t taken a proper vacation in years. SM knows I’m severely burnt out and on 7 engagements and just threw me into another high-burn engagement this week. P threw me into yet another that’s starting soon with a different SM as well. I don’t know how much longer I can put up with this.

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You people need to unionize. This is seriously a miserable and unhealthy way to live your lives and no employer should be able to treat you like this, I don't care how much money you make.

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seems like such a headache to request time off! all i've got to do is reach out to the manager and staffing team as early as we know, as long as we're considerate of project work and not an asshole to the timeline

Fun observation, since they pushed out the unlimited vacation thing, most people on my team take much less vacation than before. I took 5 days this year so far and I feel that I’ve taken the longest among all on my team

MERA or Retain? We change tools every 5 minutes and nobody seems to use them except for the automated finance systems because I have to remind everybody every week for months that I am taking a vacation and they are still surprised.

Don’t do , EMs need some work too 🤣

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How have you not seen this yet... we’ve had this email since December I think

Do you remember the subject of the email? Or anything that helps me to get that email on outlook?

Unlimited PTO is fantastic… IF it’s unlimited PTO. 95% of companies who say they have unlimited PTO don’t actually have it.

Received something VERY different. If more than 4 days, cc practice head. Almost felt like we aren't allowed to take the time off.

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