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How many real hours does it take to reach 8-10 billable hours? First year associate here wondering what a 8-10 billable hour day would look like now that I’m seeing my workload ramp up slowly but surely.

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It gets better as you 1) become more efficient, and 2) learn how to capture your time appropriately, but 8 billables usually takes me anywhere from 9-11 depending on breaks and, frankly, how well I slept the night before.

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I also find i have much better days when there’s lots of email traffic (rack up those .1s) than when I’m doing a bunch of tasks and get 2 emails all day. Sad but true

Depends on what you’re working on. If you’re sitting there drafting a bigger set of docs, you can basically leave the timer on as you work through it and then your efficiency is decently high. If you have to hop between lots of matters, then it may be lower (although that can also build a lot of time if you’re in say EC/VC and billing lots of 0.1s or 0.2s to deal with smaller items from lots of clients).

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Not every hour is built the same. I like to aim for 90% realization on worked hours but realistically 80% is a great day. And most days are less efficient than that. Try to protect your time and learn efficiency by creating good habits early on.

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This is gold! Thank you!!

Depends on how stressed I am - high stress = billing machine

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