how much do firms pay attention to non billable but required activities when looking at hours? my billables are extremely low this month. probably will only end up around 140ish, but i’ve done a ton of firm required things- OCI (i’m on the hiring committee) has taken up at least 15 hours of my time, and there have been a lot of firm meetings

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140 isn't that low in a 28-day month...

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Lol I try and target 140 hours.

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this was encouraging. thanks!

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This will be very firm specific, some give you (at least partial) billable credit for certain types of nonbillable work, others give it little weight, and still others factor it into bonuses but may do so in a way that really looks superficial (e.g., nonbillable hours recorded as opposed to actual impact)

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Piling on to add - Just be sure to record you nonbillable time so you have a record to pint to should your lower billable hours come up later.

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If you haven’t been pushing back on work there is zero concern here. Next month you might have 250 and then you’ll be ahead and won’t have to worry about future slow months when they happen. Just enjoy things being sane.

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