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How much have you seen men negotiate harder than women do? I’ve had guy friends who straight up told their boss that the promotion $ amount is not good enough, and they came back with something better. How do I do this? It wouldn’t even be something that crossed my mind.

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There is no trick to this, men simply ask for what they want. And we, as women, simply dont.

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I have to disagree here, at least in part. It's certainly true that sometimes women don't ask. However, we also have to recognize that just asking is not often sufficient so it goes beyond that one component. Men are also usually more clear on their "worth" because they are not taught to question it or criticize themselves. As such, women don't generally articulate well what makes them valuable on top regularly being asked/assigned the more soft skill and administrative tasks (and other things that are hard to quantify. Simply put, women need to get into the mindset that we should negotiate everything and have data points ready for it. Because while it's true we're worth more, it's also true that they don't pay us our worth as readily so it will come with inquiries and demands (unlike our counterparts.)

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I am a woman and I did say exactly that and I was blown off. then I changed jobs for an even bigger pay bump than I expected when I had talked to the manager about market value.

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I told a recruiter what I was looking for and she went into add’l questions into my experience.. I basically ended up telling her that the role she’s asking for is a 3 person role. I didn’t call her back.

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After hearing a male colleague negotiated his bonus and promotion $, I did the same and received an increase. I agree with EY1, they just ask.

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You need leverage. I generally ask what it takes to get [what i want] and then craft and iron clad narrative with proof that I’ve earned it.

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Good question. I have a call in a day with the person in charge of comp and im nervous for when they ask “how do you feel about your comp” what exactly to say…. I know i get paid well but id get more if i left because thats how consulting works. Feels shitty to say “im worth more than this” honestly, which i know it shouldnt

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